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Racerguy180 wrote:

 Argive wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:

 inflatablefriend wrote:
More Xenos.

Tau v Nids boxed set with Godzilla overtones.

Godzilla VS Mecha godzilla?

I swooned a bit...

I thought Go Ji Ra was a good guy? So how are xenomorphs or space commies good?

Oh Yes! Tau need more huge battlesuits, that's exactly what follows their mobile and flexible combat doctrine...

How about some Auxiliary, one of the main pillars of our lore? Or more variations on smol suits, not big ones like the riptide.

(Also yada yada, The tau being communist would have karl marx rolling in his grave)

New releases:

Battlefleet Gothic.
Emperor's Children.
World Eaters.




Rule changes:

Firstly, fix for soup. It's absurd that you're rewarded for taking the best units out of every dex you can rather than being punished or restricted in some manner for not doing it.

Fixes to existing units. Why do I have 4 LoW's and every single one of them is unplayable garbage, while Knights were given an entire dex full of OP to borderline OP ones? A million other examples of balance that needs fixing though too.

Sisters release. but not just models like they did with gloomspite gitz. Give us some actual starter sets to make the investment in them a bit easier.

Kroot/Tau Auxiliaries Codex. Perfect world that would come with two or 3 new model boxes to round out the "multiple alien species" idea of the Tau Auxiliaries. Maybe the Demiurge and Nicassar.

I want them to hire a technical writer, issue FAQs every 2 months and balance changes every 6.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
I want them to hire a technical writer, issue FAQs every 2 months and balance changes every 6.

This.

Primaris Emperor's Champion for the Black Templar. Do it as a lieutenant box.

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

Only for the Chosen few who got them or just the broken ones like the Cheesetide Wing or free everything for Ad MEch or free vehicles for Marines

Its bad enough that Vigilis started this again with some factions getting SFA and stuff like Artillery getting a boost!

DE heroes would be greta to welcome back

 Mr Morden wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

Only for the Chosen few who got them or just the broken ones like the Cheesetide Wing or free everything for Ad MEch or free vehicles for Marines

Its bad enough that Vigilis started this again with some factions getting SFA and stuff like Artillery getting a boost!

DE heroes would be greta to welcome back

Hardly the chosen few when everyone had them. Plus not everyone is a tournament player who just looks at how to win.

pm713 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

Only for the Chosen few who got them or just the broken ones like the Cheesetide Wing or free everything for Ad MEch or free vehicles for Marines

Its bad enough that Vigilis started this again with some factions getting SFA and stuff like Artillery getting a boost!

DE heroes would be greta to welcome back

Hardly the chosen few when everyone had them. Plus not everyone is a tournament player who just looks at how to win.

are we now forgetting that the balance on formations was so far off that you couldn't really justify them even in narrative?
3 Helldrakes one that didin't even function?
Spam x unit to gain y bonus was and always will be bad when the formation was literally monobuilt.
and they were, they would have to massively invest into balancing them if they ever think about bringing them back in such a way.

Not Online!!! wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

Only for the Chosen few who got them or just the broken ones like the Cheesetide Wing or free everything for Ad MEch or free vehicles for Marines

Its bad enough that Vigilis started this again with some factions getting SFA and stuff like Artillery getting a boost!

DE heroes would be greta to welcome back

Hardly the chosen few when everyone had them. Plus not everyone is a tournament player who just looks at how to win.

are we now forgetting that the balance on formations was so far off that you couldn't really justify them even in narrative?
3 Helldrakes one that didin't even function?
Spam x unit to gain y bonus was and always will be bad when the formation was literally monobuilt.
and they were, they would have to massively invest into balancing them if they ever think about bringing them back in such a way.

With the extreme ones yes. Then you have things like Firewolves and the Aspect Lord Shrine that really weren't OP at all. Monobuilds also weren't a bigger issue than now because you could vary most choices in the army.

pm713 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

Only for the Chosen few who got them or just the broken ones like the Cheesetide Wing or free everything for Ad MEch or free vehicles for Marines

Its bad enough that Vigilis started this again with some factions getting SFA and stuff like Artillery getting a boost!

DE heroes would be greta to welcome back

Hardly the chosen few when everyone had them. Plus not everyone is a tournament player who just looks at how to win.

Remind me of all the various Sisters of Battle Power Formations? What were the same for Imperial Guard or Dark Eldar at the time.

If you make totally broken formations for a few super special factions they ruin casual play as much or more than torunament play - been there.

The 8th version at least costs CP rather than simply money.

But they still cost money you have to buy the book to run them, and your going to buy an army anyway if you want to play. At least with formations, I imagine, GW was saying this is the way we want that army to play and this is the most optimal way to do it.

It is better to have to play an army in one good way, then have the freedom to buy a ton of different stuff and it never works.

Having given it a bit more thought:

New Fabius Bile and Huron Blackheart.

Advanced 40k ruleset that brings back weapon arcs, templates etc.

Total removal of soup for matched play

Total overhaul of psychic phase or its removal and integration into the shooting phase.

BFG

Return of epic

Warhammer classic rules for AOS models.

From hell's heart I stab thee! (directed at the few remaining finecast models that need to be transfered to plastic).

New, completely redone Aspect Warriors and Incubi (or at least in plastic).

A proper warboss model with some weapon options, customisation bits (or is it bitz) and the choice to have one in mega-armor, heavy armor or t-shirt armor.

New guardsmen with a unique box for veterans and conscript. New Rough Riders made to match the rest of the regiments with option for lancers or dragoon. A new Scion unit something like jetpack unit OR an Arbites unit for close combat guards.

New berzerkers of Khorne (and Noise Marine if it's not already done). New Chosen. Make Chaos Land Raiders Great Again (or for the first time come to think of it).

Two new Necron Units (return of the Pariah anyone) and Make Monolith Great Again.

A new air superiority flyer and a new heavy bomber for the Tau. New Kroot units with a Shaper HQ. (let Forge World make human militia for them).

Genestealer-hybrid Ork (big burly, ugly, heavy support option, like a sort of biovore with some genestealer traits), Genestealer-hybrid Eldar (Kerrigan ports into 40K elite choice), Genestealer-hybrid Tau (Genestealer-with wings!), Genestealer-hybrid Kroot (Genestealer hounds).

A new Primaris battletank and a new Primaris Lieutenant as per tradition.

No more comically overpriced plastic character models. Ever.

- Plastic Lictors. Either as a single sprue "character" with alt parts for Deathleaper, or a box of 3 that includes the above and an alternate build of some new unit they dream up.

- Plastic Biovores/Pyrovores. Box of 3. Includes lots of Spore Mines.

- New Gaunts. Both flavours are presently too physically large for their statline and nowhere near spiky enough. Roll the biomorphs and alternate guns onto the Termagant sprue, like what the Warriors got.

- The gaunt change would necessitate a new Ripper kit. Format it like the Nurglings kit and base it on the old FW Rippers, aesthetically.

Proper Inquisition force and codex

Rogue trader Codex and crew that has more options than included in the 40k datasheets from kill team.

More than happy for them to be included in an Agents of the Imperium codex that includes Imperial Navy and merchant navy, Navigators and minor characters that don't fit else where.

Starter sets to stay in stock for the duration of it being valid. If it sells out, produce more or release a new one. Kill team starter set has been out of stock forever, with nothing to replace it.

Abhumans. Kits for more than a couple of breeds, with options for 'loyal', chaos and neutral.

Datasheets for OOP figures available to download free, or alternatives to use. Recognition that after 30 odd years, there are more than the current few lines available.

As many Primarchs brought back as possible in order to upset grognards (so the burning of the old templates in the street).

Anything that upsets grognards actually.

Endless Spell style stuff.

Proper sub-faction rules in the style of the 30k Space Marine legions.

Codexes: Emperor's Children & World Eaters
Models: Eldar overhaul, Necron and Ork support. Prioritising troop choices and resin kits.

 Mr Morden wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

Only for the Chosen few who got them or just the broken ones like the Cheesetide Wing or free everything for Ad MEch or free vehicles for Marines

Its bad enough that Vigilis started this again with some factions getting SFA and stuff like Artillery getting a boost!

DE heroes would be greta to welcome back

Hardly the chosen few when everyone had them. Plus not everyone is a tournament player who just looks at how to win.

Remind me of all the various Sisters of Battle Power Formations? What were the same for Imperial Guard or Dark Eldar at the time.

If you make totally broken formations for a few super special factions they ruin casual play as much or more than torunament play - been there.

The 8th version at least costs CP rather than simply money.

Guard had some from Warzone Damocles and Dark Eldar had Haemonculus Covens as I recall. Sisters were just ignored entirely from before I started playing to very recently so I wouldn't say they count.

I don't have a complete memory of all the Formations but the ones I'm familiar with could be used with a decent spread of models so it's hardly like you had to buy a new army to use any of them.

If one person brings an obviously broken army with no handicap against an army that's around average power that's not casual my friend.

I don't think there was a single ork formation anyone could that didn't force you to buy additional models or did not give any meaningful bonus at all.

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

i don't even like 8ths rules and this couldn't be more wrong.

Formations were the most god awful thing in the history of 40k. Asking for them back is too much

I'd really like decent rules for fortifications, xenos terrain etc.

It'd be nice if they were relevant for once.

pm713 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

pm713 wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:

The Deer Hunter wrote:
Give me back formations.

Gross.

Formations were one of the worst parts of 7th.

Way better than 8th though. I actually liked some of them and they made more sense than magic weapons.

Only for the Chosen few who got them or just the broken ones like the Cheesetide Wing or free everything for Ad MEch or free vehicles for Marines

Its bad enough that Vigilis started this again with some factions getting SFA and stuff like Artillery getting a boost!

DE heroes would be greta to welcome back

Hardly the chosen few when everyone had them. Plus not everyone is a tournament player who just looks at how to win.

Even at the friendly level, formations made the game a nightmare. I left for HH until 8th launched, the game is lightyears better today than it was back then.

That said:

I'd really like to see Primaris move to their own codex, separating them from the old marines. Going forward I'd just like the old marines to become an index army. As it currently sits, the SM codex is a joke of a book, overloaded with too many mediocre choices, and no flare or zest. Especially when you compare it to CSM book 2, which is way better by comparison. Release the character models in clampacks, give us more generics for non-standard chapters, and flush out the heavier/special weapons for Primaris so that we can fill our roles more properly.

It would be really nice to see Eldar get the redesign, as they currently sit their range is a mishmash of ugly, outdated models. Their rules are also a bit too powerful, especially when compared to Imperium codexes. It would be great if craftworlds just got replaced with Ynarri, and Harliquins should be roled into either that book, or into the DE books from now on.

I'd like to see some of the imperial facts get squatted as well. There are loads of models that could be rolled into other books. There are just too many factions in this game at current time, it makes it confusing for new players.

It would be really nice to see Eldar get the redesign, as they currently sit their range is a mishmash of ugly, outdated models. Their rules are also a bit too powerful, especially when compared to Imperium codexes. It would be great if craftworlds just got replaced with Ynarri, and Harliquins should be roled into either that book, or into the DE books from now on.

I agree a lot of that, but that's gonna be a negative from me chief.

Craftworlds and Ynnari are two different things, I will never support merging two armies like that with completely different lore and the like.

Remove Old Marines from the game, give Primaris Old marine options, problem solved.

Ynnari need their own stuff in general. That whole thing where they borrow other faction's units is just lazy army design.

Eldar could use a bit of a nerf in terms of their defenses. I've always found them to be too durable for a race that's meant to be fragile and reliant on speed and trickery to survive.

What is Ynnari derived from anyway? Aeldari is obvious, as its just a copyright-friendly way of saying Eldar, but how did they come up with Ynnari? Did they really just put a blindfold on and picked letters at random, because that's a stupid way of doing it.

I'd love for finecast to be completely cast aside for plastic models.

After starting drukhari and seeing how many models were still finecast-only i've given up on buying them until new kits come out (Grotesques, Incubi, Mandrakes, Beasts and the court of the archon models all need plastic models)

Other than that, a consolidated ruleset would be amazing.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Ynnari need their own stuff in general. That whole thing where they borrow other faction's units is just lazy army design.

Eldar could use a bit of a nerf in terms of their defenses. I've always found them to be too durable for a race that's meant to be fragile and reliant on speed and trickery to survive.

What is Ynnari derived from anyway? Aeldari is obvious, as its just a copyright-friendly way of saying Eldar, but how did they come up with Ynnari? Did they really just put a blindfold on and picked letters at random, because that's a stupid way of doing it.

Ummm all of the troops are T3 1W....

 Argive wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Ynnari need their own stuff in general. That whole thing where they borrow other faction's units is just lazy army design.

Eldar could use a bit of a nerf in terms of their defenses. I've always found them to be too durable for a race that's meant to be fragile and reliant on speed and trickery to survive.

What is Ynnari derived from anyway? Aeldari is obvious, as its just a copyright-friendly way of saying Eldar, but how did they come up with Ynnari? Did they really just put a blindfold on and picked letters at random, because that's a stupid way of doing it.

Ummm all of the troops are T3 1W....

Don't they get a bunch of cover buffs and debuffs to enemy accuracy though? I mean, stat wise they are weak, but they get a bunch of abilities that increase their resiliance. Or maybe that's just the vehicles.