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Your Chance to Make Warhammer 40,000 Even Better with the Gamers’ Survey

Every day, Warhammer 40,000 fans around the world get in touch to share their thoughts on the game, so we have decided to give you an official way to get your voice heard. Whether it’s your experience with your favourite Codex, how the game plays right now, or ideas about what would be great to see in a future edition, we want to hear from you. Obviously, a new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is still some years off, but we like to start early.

Whether you’re a new gamer, you’ve been playing since boxed sets came with a cardboard Dreadnought, or are a lapsed fan of the 41st Millennium, we want your opinions. What do you love about Warhammer 40,000? What would you like to see changed?

Take this survey and have YOUR say on the future of Warhammer 40,000.

The survey is open until the 11th of November, so you’ve got a few days to fill it in. If you have any friends who play Warhammer 40,000 (or used to – we’d love to hear from past players too!), please send them a link to ensure that the Warhammer studio can hear from the widest range of voices.

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Voiced my opinions. Basically I love the setting and creating stories on the tabletop but find it hard to remember all the rules, strategems, army rules, unit rules, rules that change every turn, etc.

That was entertaining, choose your own adventure style. I died after the third question and the survey just stopped. Didn't know this was a rogue-like.

I basically copy/pasted a the_scotsman post about lethality and cover into their "anything else you'd like to say?" box, in addition to my own (probably less well articulated) complaints about various other things.

Rihgu wrote:
I basically copy/pasted a the_scotsman post about lethality and cover into their "anything else you'd like to say?" box, in addition to my own (probably less well articulated) complaints about various other things.

…that is a good idea and I wish I had thought of that. Way better worded than I could have done.

 Geifer wrote:
That was entertaining, choose your own adventure style. I died after the third question and the survey just stopped. Didn't know this was a rogue-like.

Died on the second question. Probably just as well as one of the options was "I can't find anyone to play my" or something.
Also the options were obviously carefully worded. I almost didn't click "The game is too complicated" as a reason for not having played. As has been discussed to death, the game isn't complicated, just bloated, but there's no option for that. In the end I chose too complicated as well as haven't kept up with the rules because that might make whatever AI they have processing the result tell them to strip out some of the bloat.

Haha, also died on the second question... haven't played in a long time because the game is bloated and because pandemic, so that's where my story ended. Guess we don't count, even tho my 40k buying and hobbying hasn't slowed at all.

Took my opportunity to wishlist all the models I want for Blood Angels. That way, when GW releases Primaris Dante, it was technically my idea

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Yeah, I don't think the questions are brilliant. Like it's odd not to have "there's been a global pandemic" or "I've got young kids" as reasons for not playing much this year. It's not all about you lads!

I asked for -

1) Digital codexes back.
2) Letting units have full wargear options - no more Death Guard style only the stuff in the box, no more pretending Marine captains can't use a given gun and sword combination until a model comes out.
3) Just get rid of stratagems as a way to combat rules bloat - generally rules should apply to miniatures, not be these stand alone things.

Quite clear from the way these questions are worded that GW has zero intention of improving 40k.

I shortened my feedback about Lethality to try and make it more positive and readable.

I didnt copy it but, in essence I wrote:

"the addition of chapter traits, relics, stratagems, traits, purchaseable upgrades and doctrine rules have made the game quite a bit more customizable, which is good, but have also changed the fundamental dynamic of how much damage a unit can do and shifted almost all of it to pre-game decided factors.

The rules for line of sight are very open (any part of any model in the unit visible from any point opens the entire unit up to taking full damage) while the rules for claiming cover are quite restrictive and difficult (typically, all models in the unit must be very close to the cover, as well as the right unit type, to benefit.

This means that an assault intercessor from the Ultramarines chapter may deal X amount of damage, but if you declare him to be Black Templars, with such and such a vow, such and such an upgrade, and using a stratagem, he now deals 7X.

But an intercessor firing at a target unit in the open, 2" away, and an intercessor firing at a target 30" away, with one small bit of one model visible, are very likely to be doing exactly the same amount of damage, or to differ by a very very small amount."

 Sim-Life wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
That was entertaining, choose your own adventure style. I died after the third question and the survey just stopped. Didn't know this was a rogue-like.

Died on the second question. Probably just as well as one of the options was "I can't find anyone to play my" or something.
Also the options were obviously carefully worded. I almost didn't click "The game is too complicated" as a reason for not having played. As has been discussed to death, the game isn't complicated, just bloated, but there's no option for that. In the end I chose too complicated as well as haven't kept up with the rules because that might make whatever AI they have processing the result tell them to strip out some of the bloat.

Wait, it's too complicated was in answer to the second question? Then I died even earlier than I thought. Must have imagined another question in between.

My pick was I don't like the game anymore, though.

 Prometheum5 wrote:
Haha, also died on the second question... haven't played in a long time because the game is bloated and because pandemic, so that's where my story ended. Guess we don't count, even tho my 40k buying and hobbying hasn't slowed at all.

Oddly enough the article explicitly asks for ex-players to participate, but it seems the survey is content to check if you're an ex-player and not bother to ask why or how you might be tempted back.

Bring back kit-bashing, instead of 'what's in the box' limitations.

 Gregor Samsa wrote:
Quite clear from the way these questions are worded that GW has zero intention of improving 40k.

Huh? There looked to be plenty of areas where you can voice displeasure.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Gregor Samsa wrote:
Quite clear from the way these questions are worded that GW has zero intention of improving 40k.

Huh? There looked to be plenty of areas where you can voice displeasure.

Unless your chosen path doesn't let you get that far.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Gregor Samsa wrote:
Quite clear from the way these questions are worded that GW has zero intention of improving 40k.

Huh? There looked to be plenty of areas where you can voice displeasure.

In a very limited and carefully predetermined Way .

I told them to Make rules and pts Free, especially the Updates.

When was the last time you played?

2+ years ago

Okay bye

There was a surprising amount of questions about the complexity and the amount of rules.

Yeah, GW knows whats happening here. Let's see if they learn.

And no option to say you were priced out, curiously. A bit of a cofirmation bias in there.

Cronch wrote:
And no option to say you were priced out, curiously. A bit of a cofirmation bias in there.

our stocks are dropping! Quick! Find a reason for it other than our prices and basic material conditions of humanity!

 Geifer wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Gregor Samsa wrote:
Quite clear from the way these questions are worded that GW has zero intention of improving 40k.

Huh? There looked to be plenty of areas where you can voice displeasure.

Unless your chosen path doesn't let you get that far.

Oh - where does the path diverge?

Ah I see - I thought people meant the survey was crashing or something. It doesn't let you go back?

I asked for less stuff on special rules and more meat in the basic rules and interactions of the base game of units with other units and terrain, more than just killing each other.

I also said that the change from 65€ start collectings to 110€ combat patrols was bad. I saw a ton of SC! sold as impulse buys, I have yet to see combat patrols sell as good.

 Galas wrote:
There was a surprising amount of questions about the complexity and the amount of rules.

Yeah, GW knows whats happening here. Let's see if they learn.

Thats interesting. Considering I was told by some posters on here that complaining in a public space achieves nothing and GW would NEVER EVER pay attention to what a bunch of losers on Dakka would say I wonder how they came to that conclusion by themselves?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
When was the last time you played?

2+ years ago

Okay bye

Yeah, me too.

So it seems they don‘t want me to play 40k anyway.

The question about how often to do errata/points changes was the most interesting for me. Please do it quarterly at the minimum.

 Dendarien wrote:
The question about how often to do errata/points changes was the most interesting for me. Please do it quarterly at the minimum.

Honestly, yearly would be fine if they ever actually did anything.

at this point the points shifts from Chapter Approved tend to be like "we shaved 10pts off a land raider and added 2pts to drukhari raiders, and we completely left these three factions with 30% winrates alone, are you happy?"

The thing I want the most is the AOS style post-codex update books, where instead of adding pointless rules bloat they just go and update the datasheets for a bunch of various underperforming unit types.

 Dendarien wrote:
The question about how often to do errata/points changes was the most interesting for me. Please do it quarterly at the minimum.

I went with monthly. Quarterly and up, they might do it in a CA that costs money. They aren't going to print a CA every month. We need digital updates.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
When was the last time you played?

2+ years ago

Okay bye

Same thing happened to me ... Last time you played (2+years) and why don't you play it anymore (doesn't appeal to me anymore), survey ends

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Dendarien wrote:
The question about how often to do errata/points changes was the most interesting for me. Please do it quarterly at the minimum.

I went with monthly. Quarterly and up, they might do it in a CA that costs money. They aren't going to print a CA every month. We need digital updates.

Monthly small changes would be my preference, but quarterly would at least be a huge improvement over what we have right now. The game is so stale and out of whack.