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I want to try something potentially hilarious with Tambo. He has 3 Hallucinogenic Grenades in his grenade launcher and the Big tank has "open topped" meaning he can (with a called shot) hit the guys inside... Now it IS a difficult shot and the Orks have enough toughness to get a real chance at just shrugging the effect of. But if they don't things might get stupidly funny over there...

I am all for it!

=> Bob: finish of the very very stunned Ork (he still has a lot of rounds to go before he can act again) or try to take a shot at the tank? And if so: turret, hull, tracks, back? What shall it be?
=> Napoleon: What is Kraitus doing? Wyona implied he should take a look at the Ork vehicle to find a weak spot. Do you exit the chimera? Open a hatch to look out? Or propose something completely different? If you get to an access point I would allow you to try and hack into the security cameras of the facility itself.

The Ork is down for the moment. Poncho will shoot the track, which hopefully helps Tambo with the grenade shot.

@ Bob: I rolled a 100 (so a massive miss) for your shot. Do you want to use a fate point to reroll it?

I am definitely using a fate point for that

Wait, if the ork boy is playing dead 3m in front of the tank, and when Poncho immbolised it it rolled 3-4m forwards. He is underneath the tank?

No, sorry, that might have been unclear. Maybe this explains it:

Ork number:
1 is frenzied (but only for 1 round)
2 is convinced he is dead
3 is paranoid and trying to get away from his brothers who are surely out to get him
(1-3 where a second batch of Orks exiting the tank)
4 is the one that was not suppressed and is running towards Teodore. Oldmate: I forgot that you wanted to go south with Simond. So feel free if you want him going there or turning around another time to take care of number 4.
5: these three orks including a Nob are currently suppressed by Autocannon fire
6: this Ork I had forgotten about, but the dice say he was indeed squashed by the tank.

I guess I'll charge ork 4 as he comes closer down that alleyway.

Bob, Napoleon, Easy E? Any input from you?

I guess it is about time to finish off the fighting and go to something more story driven, so that it is easier for all of you to post stuff.

@ Poncho: for this almost finished round I need a decision from you:
a) you stay were you are, take a shot at the single turret that can see your Tauros, but then it will definitly get the chance to shoot back if you fail to destroy it and I wouldn't allow to dodge that.
b) you pull back, none of you gets to shoot.

Yeah, I am mostly trying to thin out an Orks that I see and provide covering/suppression fire where possible.

I'd have Poncho try and shoot the looted tank in the back

OK, so Bob spends one turn to get into the rear of the tank. From there you have different options I would like to lay out, so you can make a decision:
To put this into perspective: your base attack on the tank would be 46 + 50 for size +10 for short range + 20 for twin linked = 126. I will add modifications on that for all choices you can make in bold letters

1. how close do you want to get/how much do you want to expose yourself?
a) You could do a "drive by" shooting, the Ork gunners will suffer -10 on their BS to hit you and you will be back in cover the next round. => -10 BS
b) You could drive out and stop shortly to shoot. The Ork gunners will be able to shoot back if they survive +/-0 BS
c) you could drive really close into point blank range: you could only target the hull or motive systems and if something explodes you might get hit yourself. On the other hand the turrets will not be able to shoot at you +20 BS

2. What do you want to shoot at?
a) "Doesn't matter, as long as I hit!" => +/-0 BS
b) "The main turret looks juicy..." => it is "just" enormous, due to its relatively few Hit points chances are not bad for a crit result => -30 BS
c) "Lets finish of a sponson or secondary turret" => this will almost guarantee its destruction and some hull damage, the target is just hulking => -40 BS
d) "I'll go for the hull!" => it has a lot of hit points, so this would speculate on 10s for righteous fury, but on the plus side any crit will damage all other parts and the crew. => -10 BS
e) "The drive system is already damaged, let's finish it off!" => as you already shot down its hit points this will definitly crit and set the drive compartment aflame. Killing the driver and at least damaging the hull is almost guaranteed, but the damage to the overall tank might be less then expected (I judge that the 10+ result from the crit table "flipping over" should be impossible with a lascannon against a standing Superheavy). => -20 BS

3. How do you want to shoot?
a) "Take aim, shoot once... slow and steady wins the race" => BS +20 from aiming and single shot
b) "Aim small, miss small" => a called shot (full action, no aiming) on a "weakspot" on a part 1 size categories smaller. Through my powers as GM I would judge this as +5 pen and +5 damage => BS -30
c) "I think I saw a loose bolt there..." => a called shot (full action, no aiming) on a critical weakspot on a part 3 size categories smaller. If hit I would grant +10 pen, +10 damage and one roll on the crit chart for free. => BS -50

So for example the easiest shot would be 1c) 2a) 3a), drive into point blank range, aim for anywhere on the tank, take carful aim and do a single shot. Which would be 126 +20 +0+20 = 166 BS for an almost guaranteed hit with so many degrees of success that Lasgun mastery etc. trigger multiple times.
The hardest shot would be 1a) 2c) 3c), drive by and aim on a critical weakspot on a secondary turret for 126 -10 -40 -50 = 26.

What shall it be?



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@ all: Just for future planning: As we saw such big fights have the tendency to give you players relatively little space to post your own texts. So going forward I would like to hear what kind of adventure you would like to experience with your characters.

Options include:

"Decapitation strike!": An assassination mission to find and kill one of the big Ork-bosses. => this will likely include lots of sneaking around and stuff.

"Masters of Disguise": Going for something new and pitting the group against another foe, likely the Severan Dominate, so other humans. An infiltration mission would fit nicely => this would include a lot of social interaction, not only skill tests but also writing. Convincing sentinels, Severan Guardsmen and civilians that you are friendlies, finding information, maybe sabotage etc.

"Counter Intelligence": you are back at the garrison, but something isn't right. What first looked like an unfortunate series of accidents turns out to be sabotage. Will you be the ones to find out who is hampering the imperial liberation of Skrynne? => a bit like the scenario before, just more defensive

"Snitches get stitches...": Back in the garison you realize that there is trouble brewing amongst the guardsmen. One Guardsman (or a small group of them) has a grudge against you lot and has found out something that will likely get you a front row seat on the next summary execution row for moral boost purposes. You have little time to find out who it is, what he knows and how to deal with it. Will you silence him? Blackmail him? Or maybe strike a deal with the Commissariat in turn?

"A bond stronger then blood...": an old comrad of yours is in trouble. Maybe he is innocent, maybe not, anyway, he is sitting in a cell waiting for his summary execution. But brothers in arms don't abandon each other. Will you do a classic prison break? Can you find (or forge...) evidence for his innocence? Maybe even find the true criminal (or a fitting scapegoat)?

Could you tell me if you prefer one of these and if so, which one? Or do you have an own idea what we could do next?

=> in any case you can feel free to alter your characters if you find some of your feat choices don't really work the way you wanted or if you want to try out another character. As I said: we are here to have fun and I'm flexible as GM.

Well since Orks and Guard are my two favorite things I'd love to keep fighting on this current planet/campaign

What do you think about doing a boarding action of an ork space hulk to engage in some sabotage or assasination? A space hulk would give you room for a host of different challenges/enemies while keeping the orks as the main adversary.

My other idea would be (and this is even more ambitious). You take the same conflict, only for chapter 2 the characters use the Wrath and Glory System to play Ork Characters. Then we get to see the same conflict from that perspective. Then we come back to our Guard characters for the final fight in a future part 3.

(At that point you will have literally written a Black Library book) LOL. BTW My character is modeled a little on the conscript in Catachan Devil. Good read.

Wow, those are all good ideas for a follow-on adventure.

I think I like some of them that involve dealing with our own side a bit.

Seeing as the tank is still mobile, I'll go for. a) e) a)

The idea is to leave it immobile and make good use of the terrain for hits and runs.

@ Bob: the last shot already immobilized it, so it is not going anywhere (the track is thrown, the sprocket wheel molten and the transmission gone)

Shooting the motive system again won't immobilize it further but the chance of crits would be extremely high, as it already is at -5 HP.

Oops I misread, and will aim for a smaller turret instead.

So @ all: Ponchos shot basically has destroyed the rear half of the Tank. Two of the smaller turrets are just gone, of the 20 something Ork warriors that were still inside, only 5 are left alive, thrown out and on 0 wounds. Some of them are still burning, so it's mostly just a question of mopping them up.

The main dangers left are:
- the main turret that still works
- the half fixed howitzer in front (that can only target forward, it's more a question of "don't get cocky"
- one sponson (heavy flamer) and one small turret (twin big shoota) that aim towards the alleyway
- one rokkit turret aiming in the direction of the habstacks that cannot aim at any of you.

=> one option, if you want to take the time would be to completely round the Promethium wells and attack it from the back, where it currently can't really shoot. But that will take time and you don't know if they now just want to destroy everything with the big cannon
=> another option would be to drive out the Chimera, face the sponson and turret fire (it should survive it) to give Simond the cover he needs to get out and use the melta lance.

That second plan sounds good to me. I am in favour of Simond rushing the thing with a melta lance and a bag full of grenades.

Okay, I am aligned with Option 2 as well.

@ Easy E and Oldmate:
As Bob in the last round you have different options:
Simond could go:
a) for the Flamer Sponson => this would likely have a devastating effect on the tanks interior and might even damage the main turret, but there is quite a risk to get caught in the backlash
b) go for the hull, especially where it was already heavily damaged by Ponchos first shot. The safest bet, but also the one least likely to get a devastating result
c) go for some of the damaged orks lying around everywhere => the meltalance might be a bit wasted here
d) wait if some other target of opportunity comes up => maybe a "lead ork" jumps out
e) I would allow you to try and throw the lance at the big turret, but that would be a -20 BS throw everything considered

Njal has the options above, but of course shooting the main turret would be easier for him.
He could also f) shoot the twin-big-shoota turret in front.

@ Bob:
Poncho could stay in cover or try to drive out and stop the turret before it shoots the refinery. There is no real "best" option. Both have their ups and downs

I am pretty sure he's out of ammo at this point, so he'd stay in cover to reload the lascannons

I though so too, but the Tauros has a surprisingly high ammoclip of 30. So enough for 15 shots.
as far as I see it, Poncho shot
1. the first buggy to appear
2. shot another buggy
3. shot the track of the superheavy
4. shot the back of the superheavy


For dramatic reasons, Simond and Njal will go first, then Poncho and the main turret.

No kidding? Guess that big main turret is next

So hypothetically can Simond board the giant tank, and attempt to melee the primary turret with his melta bomb onna stick?

I would try to suppress/eliminate any turrets so Simond and Baldwin could approach safely.

@ Oldmate: hmmm... that would definitly be pretty hilarious.
I tell you what: I'll handle Njals and Ponchos shooting and see if there is anything left of the main turret.
If there is, then I assume Simond jumps on top and melees the turret.

If not and the tank is destroyed, I serve you the Big Mek that constructed the thing and you can try and get a nice trophy there. Sounds fair?

Sounds good.