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The only member of the Emperor's inner circle of "humans" that is known is Malcador. Oll Person, Erda, and the rest were all lost to history when they left the Emperor's side at one point or another.
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alextroy wrote:And to follow upon the conversation since my last post, Holy Mother of the God-Emperor of Mankind is dangerously close to heretical. God-Empress, Mother of Mankind is just another type of local worship the Missionarium Galactica would come up with to get a Goddess centered religion within Adeptus Ministorum guidelines.

You may know better than I, but if I break down what you said here I translate to:

God-Empress = Supreme ruler, and or equal to the emperor's authority)
Mother of Mankind = The Matriarch of All Humanity, and or Creator Goddess.

To me that sounds far more heretical than just being the emperor's mother with an honorary title, but I like it.

Ketara wrote:There migh be cults worshipping her descended from DAoT and earlier. Perpetuals were pretty rare, and whilst she was isolated during the Great Crusade years, there's nothing to say she wasn't actively running her own mini-Empire in the year, say, 15,000.

I can see Amazon studios salivating at the thought of this.

Ketara wrote:Frankly, there's a massive disconnect of 25,000 odd years pre-Great Crusade where pretty much anything could have happened. Ollanius said he'd tried pretty much every role in life. Malcador was an absolute young 'un by Perpetual standards at a mere six and a half thousand years old.

There is nothing before Christ at least in the history right? Only AD not BC?

Gert wrote:The only member of the Emperor's inner circle of "humans" that is known is Malcador. Oll Person, Erda, and the rest were all lost to history when they left the Emperor's side at one point or another.
Spoilers for the Siege of Terra series ahead:

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Erda went into seclusion following her opening of a Warp Rift that scattered the Primarchs. She was eventually found on Terra by John Grammaticus and later Erebus. Erebus attempted to sway her to the powers of Chaos but she refused, fought four Greater Daemons and then was killed by the Word Bearer.

She sounds pretty BA splitting into a powerful tripartite being, is there any symbolism or comparable mythology with that? I'm starting to think she was inspired by Gaia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia (who is also "Terra", which of course makes perfect sense when we bring in Tolkien's Arda, and the Anglo Saxon Erda.)

It doesn't matter how powerful Erda was because as far as anyone in the Imperium is concerned, she never existed. Her triple form is a reference to the Fates of Greek/Roman mythology.
It can very well be that there is a sect of the Imperial Cult that worships the Emperor in the form of a woman but there isn't anyone above Him in terms of worship.

 Gert wrote:
It doesn't matter how powerful Erda was because as far as anyone in the Imperium is concerned, she never existed. Her triple form is a reference to the Fates of Greek/Roman mythology.
It can very well be that there is a sect of the Imperial Cult that worships the Emperor in the form of a woman but there isn't anyone above Him in terms of worship.

Interesting that you associated Erda with the fates, for me it was more Diana/Hecate or the Morrigan that came to mind with the triple goddess idea.

Old woman, middle age woman, young girl is the template of the three Fates. Obviously Erda also manifests weapons for them but I'm sure those weapons are also aligned with each Fate's duty. I'd have to double check that later though.

I can see that. Beyond the name I was referencing similarly albeit uncited stuff from wiki.

 Adeptekon wrote:

There is nothing before Christ at least in the history right? Only AD not BC?

Both the Emperor and Ollanius are canonically pre-Christ. Emps was a caveman who saw the first paintings (communicated to Malcador in the most recent books), whilst we know Ollanius was around when Sumeria was.

The Emperor has also now been confirmed as being Alexander the Great, who was pre-Christ.

You begin to see why Malcador with his 6,500 years is quite young for their kind. Even Damon Prytanis was alive since the 1920's at least (since he was at Iwo Jima and later shot Martin Luther King).

 Ketara wrote:

 Adeptekon wrote:

There is nothing before Christ at least in the history right? Only AD not BC?

Both the Emperor and Ollanius are canonically pre-Christ. Emps was a caveman who saw the first paintings (communicated to Malcador in the most recent books), whilst we know Ollanius was around when Sumeria was.

The Emperor has also now been confirmed as being Alexander the Great, who was pre-Christ.

You begin to see why Malcador with his 6,500 years is quite young for their kind. Even Damon Prytanis was alive since the 1920's at least (since he was at Iwo Jima and later shot Martin Luther King).

That is an odd one since the Emperor also remembers growing up post cave man era so its possible that the old mythology around him being the combination of shaman souls could be just as true as he remembers being a cave man because one of those shamans could have been that cave man and thus passed on those memories when the souls combined.

 Ketara wrote:

 Adeptekon wrote:

There is nothing before Christ at least in the history right? Only AD not BC?

The Emperor has also now been confirmed as being Alexander the Great, who was pre-Christ.

Ohhhh where can I read about this? Sorry if you already said. I was still trying to connect the dots to the Templars and the Hospitallers, such as the emperor being involved with them.

Thing is there aren't any dots to connect. Early GW took a lot of early inspiration from historical sources because the guys who started it were massive history nerds.

The post hock designing backwards explanations for how the emperor became who he was makes very little sence. In an universe with warp enteties and aliens it makes more sense that he started out not human. That way the gap in power would be smaller to explain. Perhaps he is just maskerading as human. We don't know. And between faulty narrators (the emperor himself beeing an unreliable source of information) and retcons I doubt we ever get a good awnser to this.

 Adeptekon wrote:

 Ketara wrote:

 Adeptekon wrote:

There is nothing before Christ at least in the history right? Only AD not BC?

The Emperor has also now been confirmed as being Alexander the Great, who was pre-Christ.

Ohhhh where can I read about this? Sorry if you already said. I was still trying to connect the dots to the Templars and the Hospitallers, such as the emperor being involved with them.

Latest book in the Horus Heresy by Dan Abnett.

Gert wrote:Thing is there aren't any dots to connect. Early GW took a lot of early inspiration from historical sources because the guys who started it were massive history nerds.

Fine. But I can have my fun can't I? I'm working on it, should be another topic coming here in a bit.

Niiai wrote:The post hock designing backwards explanations for how the emperor became who he was makes very little sence. In an universe with warp enteties and aliens it makes more sense that he started out not human. That way the gap in power would be smaller to explain. Perhaps he is just maskerading as human. We don't know. And between faulty narrators (the emperor himself beeing an unreliable source of information) and retcons I doubt we ever get a good awnser to this.

He's definitely extraordinary, being super tall and long lived, but if he didn't die and be reborn how did he get away with it? Did he just assume new forms when he took on different important roles? or was he just ghosting on people? I would think he'd get pretty bored waiting for people to die especially if he didn't age past 30.