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 Overread wrote:


I'm sorry but no. AoS at the first day of its launch had multiple large armies, including the brand new Stormcast. You can't argue it any other way - the product line was already mature on day 1 of its existence.

Huh? The first year AoS got stormcast and khornate chaos models (blades of khorne was not a thing, it was just random chaos models) and after a while the Fire Slayers showed up. The rest of the armies was the Fantasy Battle factions, just broken up in small thematic forces in free PDF downloads. Units from different FB armies was put together in small constellation. It was focused on small warbands, and you could basically mix any units (I bought some empire units, a bretonnian pegasus lord, and also had a giant just because I could). First edition there was not even a rulebook, the rules was one page in the back of a (horribly written) campaign book. The first year there was no points or guidelines as to assemble an army.

You actually got a bonus if you had a bigger moustash than your opponent.

Thinking about it, it was kind of fun, and I have not actually played the game since.

 Fayric wrote:

 Overread wrote:


I'm sorry but no. AoS at the first day of its launch had multiple large armies, including the brand new Stormcast. You can't argue it any other way - the product line was already mature on day 1 of its existence.

Huh? The first year AoS got stormcast and khornate chaos models (blades of khorne was not a thing, it was just random chaos models) and after a while the Fire Slayers showed up. The rest of the armies was the Fantasy Battle factions, just broken up in small thematic forces in free PDF downloads. Units from different FB armies was put together in small constellation. It was focused on small warbands, and you could basically mix any units (I bought some empire units, a bretonnian pegasus lord, and also had a giant just because I could). First edition there was not even a rulebook, the rules was one page in the back of a (horribly written) campaign book. The first year there was no points or guidelines as to assemble an army.

You actually got a bonus if you had a bigger moustash than your opponent.

Thinking about it, it was kind of fun, and I have not actually played the game since.

This is flat-out wrong. I’ve got the original launch box, and the rulebook inside devotes a full page to Blades of the Blood God. Happy to post a photo if anyone’s curious.

GW’s transition from Fantasy Battles to Age of Sigmar wasn’t elegant, but they did make the attempt. Let’s be honest—it went from “too complicated” to “too simple,” mostly in reaction to player feedback at the time. Folks who barely played raged that the game was “dead,” but sales and new player interest were already tanking. The writing was on the wall.

We’ve all walked this argument into the ground, but let me be clear: repurposing models in a new system absolutely supports a mature product line. The Orruk and Grot kits in AOS are direct descendants from decades ago. I still remember my first AOS battle—my brother’s spider rider goblins shredded my Stormcast with their poison rules. Those little monsters were absurd!

I’m all in on the Helsmiths. Their aesthetic is killer, and I’ll be grabbing their Spearhead day one.

I'm very excited to get more Hobgrotz. Great looking kit.

The Chaos Dwarfs feel very...cartoony? Over designed? I can't quite put my finger on it, but I would go with the myriad of better done third party sculpts I've seen over the official ones at this point.

The chaos dwarves look like something out of world of warcraft. It would be at home with GWs aesthetic in both 40k and AoS 10 years ago, not so much today.

Alright G-dubs, thanks for the Chaos Dwarves, now go all in on the Kurnothi, please. Can’t keep them confined to Underworlds, its just not right!

I think I’m more looking forward to getting my hands on the lore of the Helsmith battletome than I am the miniatures. This:

Importantly, we discover just who – or what – Hashut is, and how he relates to Grungni, Grimnir, Valaya and Gazul…

Has me intrigued immensely.

Your gang vs the guys she told you not to worry about... Just a proof modern day GW sculpting sucks ass.