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 Lathe Biosas wrote:
How tough can CSM really be? Didn't they lose a bunch of their forces to a single Tau Firewarrior?

Ah, but the only time gameplay = lore is when the games are called Space Marine or Boltgun

To be fair, he's mostly packing Imperial weaponry

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
How tough can CSM really be? Didn't they lose a bunch of their forces to a single Tau Firewarrior?

Ah, but the only time gameplay = lore is when the games are called Space Marine or Boltgun

It was also a Black Library novel.

It was? Huh

 Bobthehero wrote:
It was? Huh

Simon Spurrier wrote it.

It's not just BL novels. I recently watched Iron within and was quite... irritated about the presentation of the Dark Eldar there. They're a serious thread to the Guardsmen but also die repeatedly, but when the Space Marines come in they all die like stupid chaff, only the Archon can put up a fight. I'm usually one to say aspect warriors, immortals, nobz, Crisis suite and whatever are on par with Space Marines... but more and more I get the impression that's not current lore. Space Marines are the Avengers and everyone else is mooks. Only in DoW Trailers Space Marines die as they should

A lot of animations pit Space Marines against things that should be far more threatening to them than what is portrayed, I don't know if it stems from the ''Astartes'' short, but at least there the Marines fought cultists.

Lets not overlook that most animations are VERY short snippets and favour whichever side they are told behind. If they focus on the Admech then a single robot and priest can take on whole swarms of orks; if its a single battleship of nurgle worshippers they can wipe out a whole Imperial bastion.


So yeah the marine focused ones focus on marines and the marines win and because its not got 60-120-a whole season to play out the marines often win pretty easily etc...



Honestly I think some of it is just people hyper-fixating on marines winning. Which is compounded when a LOT of the lore (esp BL) is focused on the Imperial faction.

Both the 9th and 10th edition trailer animations have a lot of Space Marines die.