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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot




UK

Can you use rapid ingress to bring on a drop pod in your opponents turn 1 regardless of mission rules and regardless of whether you go first or second?

Arguing in favour of no:
The drop pod datasheet states:
1. You can bring it on in your turn 1 movement phase regardless of mission rules

So, your opponents turn is not your movement phase, therefore no rapid ingress?

Arguing in favour of yes:
Rapid ingress itself states:
1. You arrive as if it were the reinforcements step of your movement phase, and
2. You cannot use the stratagem to arrive in a battle round you would not normally be able to do so in

So, in battle round 1 you would normally be able to bring the pod in during your movement phase, therefore rapid ingress is ok?
   
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Fixture of Dakka




NE Ohio, USA

Yes you can.
   
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Confessor Of Sins





Tacoma, WA, USA

 Insularum wrote:
Arguing in favour of yes:
Rapid ingress itself states:
1. You arrive as if it were the reinforcements step of your movement phase, and
2. You cannot use the stratagem to arrive in a battle round you would not normally be able to do so in
This is the way, otherwise Rapid Ingress wouldn't work at all as Deep Strike also works in "in the Reinforcements step of one of your Movement phases".
   
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine





Germany

I think since it says "of your ... movement phase" you can't rapid ingress on turn one.
Page 14 of the Tules Commentary:

Q: If a unit from your army has a rule that allows it to be
set up on the battlefield from Reserves in the first battle
round, can that unit be set up in the Reinforcements
step of your opponent’s Movement phase, using the
Rapid Ingress Stratagem?
A: Yes, unless that rule explicitly states that it applies in
your Movement phase, in which case it is prevented by the
restrictions for out-of-phase rules.
   
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot




UK

 Tallandra wrote:
I think since it says "of your ... movement phase" you can't rapid ingress on turn one.
Page 14 of the Tules Commentary:

Q: If a unit from your army has a rule that allows it to be
set up on the battlefield from Reserves in the first battle
round, can that unit be set up in the Reinforcements
step of your opponent’s Movement phase, using the
Rapid Ingress Stratagem?
A: Yes, unless that rule explicitly states that it applies in
your Movement phase, in which case it is prevented by the
restrictions for out-of-phase rules.
I think this is the correct answer - there was something I was sure I was forgetting and I think this is probably it.

I think the interpretation is that you cannot daisy chain phase specific rules in out of phase activities, the out of phase action is a singular specific thing. I think the way I'll play this is:
1. You can rapid ingress any unit in reserves, but
2. You do so without the benefit of any bolted on rules specific to a phase like the drop pod has
   
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl






Southern New Hampshire

So... wouldn't that prevent ANY Deep Strikers from ever arriving via Rapid Ingress?

Nevermind, Rapid Ingress actually says, "(even though it is not your Movement phase)"

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