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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/08 08:23:32
Subject: 1850 points Death Guard
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HQ: Chaos Lord. Wargear: Manreaper, Terminator Armor, Mutation, Strength, MArk of Nurgle. 145 points. Elites:Terminator Retinue:6 Chosen, 3 powerfists, 2 reaper autocannons, Champion with Plague Sword/Combi-bolter. 316 points. Troops: 14 Plague Marines, 2 Meltaguns, Mark of Nurgle, Champion with powerfist+bolter, Infiltrate. 343 points. 3 more squads like this. Total:1372 Army Total: 1833. Comments?
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I am the Hammer. I am the Hate. I am the Woes of Daemonkind. From frenzy, temptation, corruption and deceit, deliver me, my Emperor,That the enemy might face in us Your Wrath. Fear the Grey Knights, Daemon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/08 09:25:31
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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What will you do in Alpha level missions when you can't infiltrate?
What will you do against mobile shooty armies like mech tau or skimmer-heavy Eldar, who can stay out of your meltagun range while pounding you with tons of shots?
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"The complete or partial destruction of the enemy must be regarded as the sole object of all engagements.... Direct annihilation of the enemy's forces must always be the dominant consideration." Karl von Clausewitz |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/08 12:50:08
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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Rampaging Carnifex
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With 56 walking T5 guys it's not so direly important that you infiltrate. Skimmers however will provide problems.
I think the walking nurgle army will do best with more reaper terminators to help out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/09 02:23:06
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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I understand that I'd have trouble with Skimmers, but my Marines will probably survive most of the shots. I could add in two Dreadnoughts with autocannons and missile launchers for one of the Plague marines squads. Would that work for my skimmer trouble?
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I am the Hammer. I am the Hate. I am the Woes of Daemonkind. From frenzy, temptation, corruption and deceit, deliver me, my Emperor,That the enemy might face in us Your Wrath. Fear the Grey Knights, Daemon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/09 10:07:06
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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Plastictrees
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2 dreadnoughts will just make targets of themselves (at least 3 vehicles is the rule of thumb) and chaos dreads are not well designed for shooting anyway because they tend to rage when you need them to shoot. Putting a missile launcher on a chaos dread just throws away its real strength, which is hand-to-hand combat.
I think the concept of the army is flawed. A 22 point infiltrating plague marine costs 47% more than a 15 point loyalist marine, but is not 47% more effective. This army doesn't play to any of the strengths of a nurgle army (for example, daemons) but accepts all of their weaknesses (high cost per model and lack of ranged weapons, especially problemmatic in alpha scenarios).
For a very large static shooty meq army, go for loyalists or IW. For an infiltrating army go Alpha Legion. An extra point of toughness doesn't make a static, short-ranged army competitive.
But if you would find it fun to play, feel free to prove me wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/09 15:19:48
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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New List, 2000 points. Chaos Lord:See my first post. 145 points. Plague Terminator Retinue: 13 Termies, 4 Reaper Autocannons, 2 Powerfists. Champion with Plague Sword. 311 points. Troops: See first post, subtract Infiltrate. Al Champions have Nurgle's Rot. 1219 points. 2002 points Total. C&C welcome.
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I am the Hammer. I am the Hate. I am the Woes of Daemonkind. From frenzy, temptation, corruption and deceit, deliver me, my Emperor,That the enemy might face in us Your Wrath. Fear the Grey Knights, Daemon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/09 16:32:10
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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Rampaging Carnifex
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The real strength of Chaos dread is at supremely sucking butt. Las/ hb mutated possessed predators, if you want vehicles in this list. A 15 pt loyalist marine doesn't infiltrate, have T5 or true grit. If you want infiltrating it's 18 pts, at which point true grit & T5 and fearless starts to look pretty damn nice for 4 pts I liked your first list, but I think you need more terminators to get some good antitank guns. Try a lord with terminators, more terminators, and then a bunch of walking squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/10 02:00:35
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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I edited the 2nd list, take a look.
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I am the Hammer. I am the Hate. I am the Woes of Daemonkind. From frenzy, temptation, corruption and deceit, deliver me, my Emperor,That the enemy might face in us Your Wrath. Fear the Grey Knights, Daemon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/10 19:41:26
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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Rampaging Carnifex
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At least you can kill you some hammerheads now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/14 14:06:58
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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I would split termie squad in two. One as retinue, one as chosen.
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"There is no such thing as a cheesy space marine army, but any army that can beat space marines is cheesy. " -- Blackmoor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/09/14 23:05:10
Subject: RE: 1850 points Death Guard
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Also, don't waste any points on upgrades on characters in a squad with all power weapons. Just put powerfists on the guys with reaper autocannons and everyone else gets power weapons and likes it. The champion can have a power weapon+ CCW
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