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**Sarigar**

On the GW site (US), has a couple teaser photos of new Dark Angels. Can't tell from the picture, but would really love to see a Dark Angels Special Character on a jetbike.

**malfred**

So it looks like some special character, commander stuff, and plastic torsos in robes and
tabards? That seems neat.

But the vehicle dice...blech. I'd rather cross reference or memorize a table...

**khador_bear**

The character on the top left is probably the new Master of the Ravenwing on Jetbike. He looks pretty BA... not gonna lie. I plan on picking up any new sculpts for DA characters, the codex, and any uniques they'll get. Otherwise... I've got an entire company of DAs right here. I think I'm good on marines.

**Toreador**

I have been waiting for the vehicle dice since I heard about them. A must have for me.

I am curious what the jetbike will look like. Will it hearken back to the original, or that horrible second version? Maybe something entirely new.

**tinfoil**

Wow, "peaks" indeed. Why not just show us the figures?
Is it me, or has GW's veil of secrecy grown excessively, annoyingly, almost paranoid opaque. We've gone from a six-month waiting period to, well, practically nothing in the way of WIP or advance preview.

Sigh. I miss the old days, when Portent would broadcast secret stuff and even WD would hazard a few "greens."

**Boss Salvage**

Link For The Lazy

w00t for the uncanny return of the old DA commander, always liked that guy back before I knew much about 40k ...

- Boss Salvage

**CaptKaruthors**

I like the master of the ravenwing. I am assuming ravenwing master gideon got himself perished then? Gideon was bald...this guy has hair.

Capt K

**The Crawling Chaos**

Posted By CaptKaruthors on 12/06/2006 12:40 PM
I like the master of the ravenwing. I am assuming ravenwing master gideon got himself perished then? Gideon was bald...this guy has hair.

Capt K

New edition means new fluff. Therefore, anyone who was bald in 3rd edition may or may not be bald in fourth edition. We'll have to wait until each new codex comes out before we know who is officially bald.

**Gabe**

Master of the Ravenwing and Master of the Deathwing are named characters, needed to make the Ravenwing and Deathwing armies. Asmodai is not in the book anymore.

MotRW: Sammael
MotDW: Belial

This according to Brimstone from Warseer.

**Lemartes**

Hair implants man. It is the year 40k and tech is just amazing besides the tanks that look like left over vintage WW2.

**Phryxis**

We've gone from a six-month waiting period to, well, practically nothing in the way of WIP or advance preview.

I don't get/appreciate some of the delays they throw into the process.

For example, with the new Tau Stealh Suits, they were available in an army deal for a month or two before they were finally available alone. Clearly they have the capacity to manufacture them. I'm not going to buy an army box I don't need, just to get 3 Stealth Suits. Please just stop with that.

I also don't get why certain models, Eldar Banshees for example, are pictured in the Codex, but not yet available. If they're pictured in the Codex, that means they had time to take a model, paint it to a high standard, photograph it professionally, work that photo into a Codex, go through all the printing, etc. etc. etc. In short, they must have had the models done six months ago. But they're not releasing them yet. What's the deal with that?

**malfred**

My guess is that it's like PP releases. They're spreading them out over time.

**The Crawling Chaos**

Posted By Gabe on 12/06/2006 1:37 PM
Master of the Ravenwing and Master of the Deathwing are named characters, needed to make the Ravenwing and Deathwing armies. Asmodai is not in the book anymore.

MotRW: Sammael
MotDW: Belial

This according to Brimstone from Warseer.

Very interesting. Biblically, Sammael and Belial are fallen angels. I wonder what this says about the nature of the Dark Angels as far as the question of who's really fallen and who's really loyal.

**beef**

where am I supposed to be looking? I saw the link and I want to know where is It I am supposed to look?

**Frazzled**

look at bottom. There should be a section "sneak peaks"

**Gundammecha**

Posted By Phryxis on 12/06/2006 2:34 PM

We've gone from a six-month waiting period to, well, practically nothing in the way of WIP or advance preview.

I don't get/appreciate some of the delays they throw into the process.

For example, with the new Tau Stealh Suits, they were available in an army deal for a month or two before they were finally available alone. Clearly they have the capacity to manufacture them. I'm not going to buy an army box I don't need, just to get 3 Stealth Suits. Please just stop with that.

I also don't get why certain models, Eldar Banshees for example, are pictured in the Codex, but not yet available. If they're pictured in the Codex, that means they had time to take a model, paint it to a high standard, photograph it professionally, work that photo into a Codex, go through all the printing, etc. etc. etc. In short, they must have had the models done six months ago. But they're not releasing them yet. What's the deal with that?

Dude one word for you. Harlequins

Think Stealth suits were bad? Rumour has it that Eldar players will have to wait till next summers world wide rubbish campaign to get these bad boys.

**malfred**

Yeah, their site is aggravating.

When you get to the News section of the site, there are three image
links on the bottom in the form of the Warhammer 40,000, Warhammer
Fantasy, and Lord of the Rings logos. Click on those and a popup window
of sneakpeaks should spring up.

**CaptKaruthors**

Master of the Ravenwing and Master of the Deathwing are named characters, needed to make the Ravenwing and Deathwing armies. Asmodai is not in the book anymore.

MotRW: Sammael
MotDW: Belial

This according to Brimstone from Warseer.

This is interesting since the names of the Masters in the past were different. I do hope that they address the change in commands like they did with the Ultramarines 2nd company in the new marine codex. Gideon was the MotRW in the 2nd and 3rd. ed codices, so I hope that they right a nice little death story...hehe.

Capt K

**carmachu**

I might snag that New commander for my army.....

**Imriel**

Posted By The Crawling Chaos on 12/06/2006 2:58 PM

Posted By Gabe on 12/06/2006 1:37 PM
Master of the Ravenwing and Master of the Deathwing are named characters, needed to make the Ravenwing and Deathwing armies. Asmodai is not in the book anymore.

MotRW: Sammael
MotDW: Belial

This according to Brimstone from Warseer.

Very interesting. Biblically, Sammael and Belial are fallen angels. I wonder what this says about the nature of the Dark Angels as far as the question of who's really fallen and who's really loyal.

Fallen Angel names are nothing new, in fact Belial and Sammael are named characters form at least as far back as second edition. Belial even had rules in the Storm of Vengence suplement, as he was the Commander of the 3rd company at Piscina IV. Samael is the commander of the 4th company.

**Drake_Marcus**

Wow- that old skool commander redux has some really crisp detail! Very, very cool sculpt

In other news the plastic sprue components seem to suffer from the same lack of crispness that the rest of the 4th ed marine plastics do. Is it just me or is that a poor approximation to a hooded marine's head? :p

**Abadabadoobaddon**

I don't get/appreciate some of the delays they throw into the process.

For example, with the new Tau Stealh Suits, they were available in an army deal for a month or two before they were finally available alone. Clearly they have the capacity to manufacture them. I'm not going to buy an army box I don't need, just to get 3 Stealth Suits. Please just stop with that.

I also don't get why certain models, Eldar Banshees for example, are pictured in the Codex, but not yet available. If they're pictured in the Codex, that means they had time to take a model, paint it to a high standard, photograph it professionally, work that photo into a Codex, go through all the printing, etc. etc. etc. In short, they must have had the models done six months ago. But they're not releasing them yet. What's the deal with that?

They just wanna make sure you really REALLY want it before they let you have it. They are just trying to be, eh... how you say... douchebag.