1850 Black Templars - (5 Land Raiders)

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**Mahu**

Here is the list, I pretty much made this for giggles, what do you think?

1 Marshal @ 476 Pts
   Crusader Seals; Command Squad; Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Fist (x1); Abhor The Witch, Destroy The Witch
   1 Crusader Seals
   1 Frag Grenades
   4 Command Squad
      Bolter (x3); Plasmagun (x1); Abhor The Witch, Destroy The Witch; Land Raider Prometheus
      1 Sergeant @ [16] Pts
         Bolter; Abhor The Witch, Destroy The Witch
      1 Land Raider Prometheus @ [279] Pts
         Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter; Twin Linked Heavy Bolter Sponson (x2);
         1 Extra Armor
         1 Searchlight
         1 Smoke Launchers
         1 Power of the Machine Spirit
         1 Improved Comms

1 Emperor's Champion @ 110 Pts
   Abhor The Witch, Destroy The Witch; Crusader Seals; The Black Sword; Bolt Pistol
   1 Armor of Faith
   1 Crusader Seals
   1 Frag Grenades
   1 The Black Sword

5 Crusader Squad @ 364 Pts
   Bolt Pistol & CCW (x4); Plasmagun; Abhor The Witch, Destroy The Witch
   1 Land Raider Crusader @ [278] Pts
      Hurricane Bolters (x2); Multi-Melta; Twin-Linked Assault Cannon; Abhor The Witch, Destroy The Witch
      1 Extra Armor
      1 Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter
      1 Power of the Machine Spirit
      1 Smoke Launchers

1 Land Raider @ 268 Pts
   Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter; Twin-Linked Lascannon (x2); Abhor The Witch, Destroy The Witch
   1 Extra Armor
   1 Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter
   1 Power of the Machine Spirit
   1 Smoke Launchers

Total Roster Cost: 1850

This is probably the worst list evar. But worht looking at.

**Sarigar**

Ok, I may get laughed at here at dakka, but I've found when my opponents take multiple Land Raiders, it is actually hard for me to take them all down.

One, not a problem
Two, troublesome, but not impossible.
Three, crap, they are still coming at me.
Four, hmmm, no one's brought four before
Five-Now, I'm interested.

**ninjajuicer**

You will probably get laughed at, but it might work sometimes and would certainly be fun to play.

Honestly, if you didn't have lots of players fielding 4-8 Donkey Cannons in their armies it would do a lot better. I don't think the problem is with the assault cannon per se. The problem is in the fact that a land raider is worth 200 pts tops! It is less well armed than a predator, has much less survivability than a falcon or monolith, and has less transport capability than a monolith. If you use it as a fire support system, it is undergunned. If you use it to transport troops, it lacks survivability. The crusader trades all long range fire for an increased squad sizes (making it a one trick pony) and it costs more. You used to be able to fire the hurricane bolters no matter how far you moved, which was pretty cool. You can't even do that anymore!