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I'd like to start a CSM army. I've been playing with a LatD army since Eye Of Terror and I have some CSM models lying around so I figured, why not? As with my LatD army, I'd like the army to be mostly undivided models, but also with a smattering of Slaaneshi stuff and maybe some Tzeentch  as well. I want to stay away from a purely EC army or a Daemonbomb.

Here are the models I have so far - Daemon Prince, Leuitant/Sorceror, 10 Termies, 2 boxes of CSMs, some EC bitz, 5 Raptors, 10 Daemonettes, 6 Havocs, and a Defiler. I'd really like to not have to spend money to buy additional models but wouldn't be totally opposed to buying a few things.

My thoughts are an MoCu Daemon Prince with Chosen Termie retinue (can I get the Termie retinue MoS so I can equip sonic weaponry?) for tough assault/close-in unit, a Lt./Sorceror w/ Daemonic Flight (would join the Raptors) for fast assault, 2 squads of vanilla CSMs with 2 Plasma guns, Havoc squad w/ Siege Specialists and Las/Auto/2MLs for AT role, and the Defiler w/ Indirect Fire.

Suggestions/help is appreciated! Thanks!

 

Have 2 squads of termies, each with one blastmaster and the rest sonic blasters (yes you can do this, and yes you *should* do this!). Slaaneshi termies rock due to Warp Scream, and that they can let 3 shots rip from the Sonic Blasters (on Heavy 3 setting) while moving and assaulting. Use Power Weapons with Lightning claws to flavour, and you should throw a Fist of some sort on one guy per unit as MC insurance. Consider a Dark Blade, daemonic strength, spiky bits on your Daemon Prince.

I *think* you can take sonic blaster, power weapon AND doom siren on a model, but I could be wrong. If you can, then do that for your DP and one Aspiring Champ per Chosen squad.

It would be fluffy to buy one more terminator and 2 more daemonettes to make both all the Slaaneshi units 'favoured' number, but there's no mechanical benefit in a non EC army.

Infiltrate your CSM squads and give them teleport homers to bring the termies in. Make sure to infiltrate them into hard cover or well hidden behind terrain, as these are your daemon summoners as well as termie summoners. If you're lucky, the termies will come in first and you can summon daemons off of them in subsequent turns.

For Havocs, the consensus build is 4 ReaperACs with Tank Hunters. That way you get effectively 8 twinlinked missile launcher - strength shots from the unit. If you don't Mark the havocs, you can get multiple vet skills (eg infiltrate). But MkU is probably worth it due to the fire they'll attract. Some people swear by Tankhunting Slaaneshi Blastmaster Havocs. I'd rather have double the shots AND twinlinked with the reapers, than the extra point of strength and a small blast - they're all AP4 anyway.

Some random thoughts:

- Las/plas works on CSM squads. Plas/plas does too, especially if they infiltrate. I prefer the lascannon bits from the IW box over the lascannon havoc model, and most of my lascannon toting marines are the result of bits orders for the IW bits. Infiltrate is very, very good for the cost.

- Blastmaster havocs have some advantages, but they are expensive to field with a proper amount of ablative wounds. Consider that with Tank Hunters, you're paying 22 points per ablative wound in the squad. In an EC squad you can give the free champ in the squad a Daemonic Spawn for some cheap ablation, but it's less points effecient in an undivided force.

- Daemonettes are excellent.

- Chaos terminators aren't bad, but they're somewhat overpriced compared to the rest of the list. Personally every time I feel like fielding them, I end up looking at the numbers and capabilities and decide I really want bikes anyway...

- If you have the Daemon Prince model, it is pretty much assumed to have Daemonic Stature. Lords with Daemonic Stature can't have retinues. Also, you can't have a lord with a different mark from the retinue. It sounds like you want to put the terminator retinue with the lieutenant and then have the lord separate.

- You probably want more warm bodies in that list.

Man, checking the US site has the IW box no longer available -- shame, as, imo, it's still the best Chaos lascannon, but it's still available on the UK store.

How about???

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3 Terminators w/ Sonic Blasters, Chain-</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">fists; 2 Terminators w/ Blastmasters, Powerfists;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl26">Mark Of Slaanesh</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=36*6+8+50+10+40+24+30" x:num="">378</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Possessed Abyssal Slaves</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">5 Possessed; Daemonic Flight, Mark Of Slaanesh</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=5*37+25" x:num="">210</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Troops</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Abyssal Slaves Squad I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 CSMs w/ Plasma Guns; 1 CSM w/ Icon; 5 CSMs;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl26">Infiltrate, Mark Of Chaos Undivided</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl26"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=8*18+10" x:num="">154</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Abyssal Slaves Squad II</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 CSMs w/ Plasma Guns; 1 CSM w/ Icon; 5 CSMs;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl26">Infiltrate, Mark Of Chaos Undivided</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl26"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=8*18+10" x:num="">154</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Daemonette Pack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">10 Daemonettes</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">150</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Fast Attack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Raptor Squad Sojourner</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Raptor Champ w/ Lightning Claws; 1 Raptor w/ Flamer;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Raptors w/ Plasma Pistols, CCWs; 1 Raptor</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl26"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=29*5+69" x:num="">214</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Fury Pack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">10 Furies</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">150</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Heavy Support</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Abyssal Slaves Havoc Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Champ w/ Combibolter; 4 Havocs w/ Autocannons;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl26">Tank Hunters; Mark Of Chaos Undivided</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">191</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Mastex The Fallen</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Defiler w/ Havoc Launcher</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">160</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Total</td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=SUM(B4:B74)" x:num="">1986</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

My theories:

HQ: The Daemon Prince is largely there as a giant target. The Daemon Princess (a slight misnomer since she lacks Daemonic Stature) will be the real assault asset and will be joined by the Possessed squad w/ Daemonic Flight and Warp Scream as well.

Elites: Termies will provide both medium reange firepower plus an extra assault element. Rapturous Standard will help to soak up damage if need be and will also help to summon the Daemonette pack.

Troops: 2 CSM squads w/ Plasma Gun, Infiltrate, and Icon to summon either the Daemonettes or Furies if an assault squad gets too close.

Fast Attack: I'm really thinking of replacing the Raptors with Bikers. They are somewhat redundant since I have the Possessed squad and Lt. Furies are cheap and will help to tie up shooty/heavy weapons squads until my Termies or assault squads can move in to finish the job.

Heavy: Havocs w/ Autocannons and Tank Hunters to destroy armour and provide fire support. Ditto for the Defiler.

Thoughts?

I like the list. It is in many ways something I'd like to play. A bit light on the fire support side though, but it's got style and - I think - serious potential for kicking ass. That being said, here is a long list of what could be a bit more optimal and why.

Im not at all certain about your Daemon Princes weapon choises. I don't remember if he can have combiweapons with stature, but I'd still be against having that one there. He certainly should have a personal icon to have one more direction of daemonic threat to which your opponent would have to respond to. Also, since you can have wings or speed for the prince, you should go for it. It doesn't make sense to have the prince walking. That extra 6" movement makes all the difference when you're itching to get to close combat... All in all, back to the drawing board with this dude.

The lieutenant has some strance choises too. First of all, daemonic fire is not a viable choice. Sucks. The great weapon loses you an attack (no additional hand weapon allowed). Since she has MoS she can have doom siren, which is a really good weapon for her role. I'd do away with the aura since shes going to be joining the possessed... Here's how I'd use her: MoS, Doom Siren, Flight, Strenght, Power Weapon (or maybe spiky single lightning claw).

Since your infiltrating troop csm troops are that big, they could use an aspiring champ with mutation & fist. 8 is not a unitsize for throw-away squads, so I'd have them prepared for close combat. Gives more options on the field and keeps them a threath against things like carnifexes and dreadnoughts.

I'd split the daemonettes into 2 squads and preferably add those 2 girls for 2x6. The furies could be used with mere 8 models, but any less would cut into the squads effectivity too much. They're good now though.

Haven't tried yet, but the way I _intend_ to field my raptors is total 6 with infiltrate, mocu, 3 meltaguns and an aspiring champ with 1 claw, bp, mutation. You actually pay 5pts less for exactly the same effect AND you get to keep your bolt pistol. No use to go with a pair of claws in chaos lists. For even more attacks you can invest in mastercrafting and/or spiky bits, so you're not going to run out of options. Also, give the aspiring champ the units chaos icon to keep a maximum number of the wounds really ablative.

Drop the Havoc aspiring champ and get 1 more warm body there. I field my autocannon havocs in squads of 6, so that in order to gain any pts from it my opponent has to kill 4. Defiler could use indirect, methinks. With so few vehicles in the list it's going to be _the_ target priority of every AT gun on the field.

You're not going to have the points to go with all my suggestions without dropping something, but... please try

Posted By Strangelooper on 12/22/2006 9:26 AM

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I *think* you can take sonic blaster, power weapon AND doom siren on a model, but I could be wrong. If you can, then do that for your DP and one Aspiring Champ per Chosen squad.
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That is correct. Doom Siren doesn't require a hand nor is it eligible as an additional hand weapon. Thats how it goes when bought as character wargear at least. Im not all that certain about them when carried by squad members though, I don't have a codex at hand. It might be possible for squad members to have both a bolter and a doom siren, you should check it out.

About Doom siren: The correct assault rule for it is - more or less - that when charging into cover, it makes the combat occur in iniative order in regard to the wearer, not the squad he's with. Third print of codex chaos has a completely insane wording, disregard it. If in doubt check FAQ & dakka rules forum.

<table width="398" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 299pt;" x:str=""> <col width="334" style="width: 251pt;"></col> <col width="64" style="width: 48pt;"></col> <tbody> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td width="334" height="21" style="height: 15.75pt; width: 251pt;" class="xl26">Abyssal Slaves CSM</td> <td width="64" style="width: 48pt;"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl24">HQ</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Daemon Prince Xerxes, Lord Of The Abyssal Slaves</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Lord w/ Combi-Flamer, Dread Axe, Daemonic Stature,</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Mark Of Chaos Undivided, Spiky Bits, Daemonic Speed</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=60+10+25+15+5+10+15" x:num="">140</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Daemon Princess Vixtrola</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Lt. w/ Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Daemonic Flight, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Daemonic Aura, Mark Of Slaanesh</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=45+10+1+20+15+10" x:num="">101</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl24">Elites</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Abyssal Slaves Chosen</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Icon Bearer w/ Sonic Blaster, Power Weapon, Icon;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">3 Terminators w/ Sonic Blasters, Chainfists;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Terminators w/ Blastmasters, Powerfists;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Mark Of Slaanesh</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl29"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=36*6+8+10+40+24+30" x:num="">328</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Possessed Abyssal Slaves</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">6 Possessed; Daemonic Flight, Mark Of Slaanesh</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=6*37+30" x:num="">252</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl24">Troops</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Abyssal Slaves Squad I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 CSMs w/ Plasma Guns; 1 CSM w/ Icon; 5 CSMs;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Infiltrate, Mark Of Chaos Undivided</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=8*18+10" x:num="">154</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Abyssal Slaves Squad II</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 CSMs w/ Plasma Guns; 1 CSM w/ Icon; 5 CSMs;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Infiltrate, Mark Of Chaos Undivided</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=8*18+10" x:num="">154</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Daemonette Pack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl29">6 Daemonettes</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=15*6" x:num="">90</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Daemonette Pack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl29">6 Daemonettes</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=15*6" x:num="">90</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl24">Fast Attack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Bike Squad Sojourner</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">3 Bikers w/ Bolt Pistols; 1 Biker w/ Bolt Pistol, Icon;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Biker Champ w/ Power Weapon, Teleport Homer;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Mark Of Chaos Undivided</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=35*5+13+5+10" x:num="">203</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Fury Pack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">8 Furies</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">120</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl24">Heavy Support</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Abyssal Slaves Havoc Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Havoc w/ Icon; 1 Havoc; 4 Havocs w/ Autocannons;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Tank Hunters; Mark Of Chaos Undivided</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=6*18+80" x:num="">188</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Mastex The Fallen</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Defiler w/ Havoc Launcher</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">160</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Total</td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=SUM(B4:B76)" x:num="">1980</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
i think this is my final list. not sure if i can tweak it any further.

Thinking of taking out 2 Furies and adding 1 more biker to the squad (which would make both FA units 6 models and Favoured - no real advantage but more fluffy). Also thinking of giving the DP a Personal Icon and Daemonic Flight (rather than Speed).

Thoughts?