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Is there anything from a rules perspective that prevents me from fielding Daemonettes based on their WFB bases in a game of 40K?

The WFB bases are a bit larger than the 40K base, so, per the rules, this would be OK?

Just looking for a reason to NOT re-base 30 odd miniatures...

Thanks!

The 25mm square obviously have more surface area than a 25mm diameter circle, so you?re fine from a rules perspective. Some people prefer to use round bases for aesthetic reasons, and some companies (see link below) sell fantasy movement trays with round sockets to accommodate this dual usage.

http://www.gf9.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=103

Most players who want to use their daemon models in both systems, IME, just use the square bases.

It is not a big deal until someone complains about it, for instance they might say you are trying to gain some unfair advantage. Oh well!

- Greenie

Except that there is no unfair advantage to be gained if the base is effectively the same size or larger. If I ever get around to doing a Chaos army for WHFB that involves daemons, I'll probably use round bases (for the off chance I return to 40k) and those excellent GF9 movement trays Mannahnin linked.

Eldar Avatars always came with square bases. Has this changed?

I'm pretty sure they package them with round bases now. They definitely do so with Wraithlords and War Walkers, both of which also used to come with square bases.

Infantry daemons come with both.

Greater Daemons also still come with just square bases, unless that's changed in the last two/three years.

Square bases are quite beastly.

- Greenie

It might be arguable that an unfair advantage exists regarding rotation. For example, you can measure from the center of the base, move the model x inches, and then turn it so the corner is forward, and gain a quarter inch, or whatever. Not a huge deal, but in a game where things are being placed exactly 12" or exactly 18" away to avoid first turn charges, it's actually something that one could make use of.

I think that's about as nit picky as it can possibly be, but it might be reason enough that you could get whined at for it at a tournament or something. After all, if you've got 30 odd Daemonettes, I'm sure you'll find somebody who thinks that's "cheese" and wants to punish you for offending him, one way or another.

People like that are the reason I quit playing this game. People who complain about everything while trying to max-min there army. And especially people who model bolters on their lascannon guys and try to pawn off having rapid fire lascannons. I know torniments don't allow that anymore but the amount of people who try to power game just offends me.

To get to the point, I think the square bases are alright. My eldar seer council 'such as it is now - much reduced' is all on square bases. I don't see a problem wiff it.

The answer is simple. Magnetize the feet.  Then you can flip flop them

Good luck with that... Daemonettes have tiny feet, and only one is touching the base. Some of the horrors don't even have feet, or aren't toughing the base, screamers don't have feet, and magnetizing a flight stand is asking for trouble.

Plague bearers, Bloodletters and flamers are the only ones with feet remotely big enough to fit magnets into, I think.

I think the rules state you should model the mini on the bases provided in the kit. I have no problem with the square bases provided with deamons.

- Greenie

Incorrect. All the rules say is that you can not use a base smaller than what the models were provided with, so if anyone seriously tries to get on your case about square bases, and the actual rules in the book don't shut them up, just tell them where they can cram a chaos land raider, pointy-side first.

Posted By Celtic Strike on 12/29/2006 11:12 PM
People like that are the reason I quit playing this game. People who complain about everything while trying to max-min there army. And especially people who model bolters on their lascannon guys and try to pawn off having rapid fire lascannons. I know torniments don't allow that anymore but the amount of people who try to power game just offends me.

  Awwwww! 

The point of square bases are so that you can uniformly rank up your troops IN WFB.
Ive be replacing my round bases with square over the past year, Making it easier too stow them in the cases.

I wonder why the company uses circles for one gaming system and squares for the other.

- Greenie

One of my squats came with a hexagonal base.

Trikes... yeah they were the snizzle definitely. Luckily the company has said if they make a model you will be able to use it now.

- Greenie

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Not magnets; pins. As Gabe pointed out, Daemonettes are tiny models and pins would work better.

As far as the rules go, the model came packaged with both bases and you would be sticking to the RAW.

I seriously can't imagine someone complaining about the use of square bases. If they are, it may be good indicator of what kind of game you are about to have.

It's better to assume that people are nice until proven otherwise.

Maybe an opponent who complains about this has had someone pull the rotation trick on him (the one Phyrixis described), and suspects you might be trying the same thing.

When I'm using my square-based models, I always make sure to measure from the leading edge, not the center, so that rotation can't help me gain distance.

  I think that one of the designers of WHFB described the person who tries to mount minotaurs on 20mm bases in order to get more frontage as being far more an object of pity than of hatred.  I think that anyone using square bases to gain an extra quarter inch of movement falls under the same category.  They obviously have serious problems, and should be treated gently.