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Hey, just started playing Warhammer 40k about a month ago- i read all of my codex and came up with a khorne army exactly 1000 pts, any help appreciated thanks

225: Daemon Prince-MoK, pair of lightning claws, term. armor, talisman of burning blood, collar of khorne, feel no pain, daemonic speed, stature, essence, and rune.....i think i spent too many points here but last night he survived 2 turns taking shots from a full tau army and wiped out fire war unit, hq team, and 2 devilfishes

2x-147: 7 Khorne Zerkers-MoK, bolt pistol, khorne chainaxe, frag grenades

2x-45: 1 Aspiring Champ-MoK, bolt pistol, powerfist, feel no pain, talisman, frag grenades

176: 2 Chaos Bikers-melta guns on bikes, bolt pistols, MoK, skilled riders

             Biker AC-MoK, powerfist, feel no pain, skilled rider

215: Chaos Defiler-indirect fire, twin-linked lascannons, havoc launcher

i think i may have put too many upgrades on everything :p

looks good, but any model in power armor given MoK can not take melta guns (per the chapter approved article on CSM erata) so you will have to alter your bikes accordingly.

Lord: too many points in Daemonic Gifts (Gifts of the Gods count towards your Daemonic Gifts limit - check that you have the latest printing of the Codex regarding this), can't combine Lightning Claws or Terminator Armour with Stature, can't combine Terminator Armour with Daemonic Speed or Talisman of Burning Blood, and the Talisman is useless when you have Daemonic Speed since he doesn't Frenzy.

Berzerkers: shibby. I'd think about dropping Feel No Pain on the Champions, though, since most of the time he can't be targetted by enemy attacks. I like to have Daemonic Strength on my Powerfist Champions - definately helps with taking out tanks and monstrous creatures when I need to.

Bikes: as already stated, can't take the meltaguns. You'd think that you can since they are mounted on the bikes themselves, but in 40kv4 there is no distinction between a bike and its rider, meaning he's still just a power-armoured model with the Mark of Khorne. I also fear that with only 3 bikes they aren't going to last long in battle...

Defiler: point sink. Ditch the Havok Launcher and Lascannons and you'll be set. He simply doesn't need them when sitting behind cover and lobbing shells - and if an enemy does get too close, chances are they'll either tie him up in combat or destroy him anyway. Just my experience, though, maybe you or other people will disagree.

Overall, I like the general idea behind the list, it just needs to be tweaked for rules legality and such.

ok thanks, will try fixing some things

i was just looking through the CSM errata v 4.0.1 and v 4.2 and i can't find anything about models in power armor and MoK not being able to use meltaguns : /

ah i found it in the codex....nevermind i am an idiot

I was just wondering, does the standard Chaos Lord count as wearing power armor for the not being able to upgrade ranged weaponry rule? And if so, can you take the demonic armor and then not be considered wearing power armor because technically now you're in demon armor?

Models with access to the Armoury are not limited in what weapons they can take. So yes, a Khorne Lord can take a ranged weapon other than a bolt pistol or a plasma pistol.

Note that technically a Chaos Biker Champion doesn't even have a Chaos Space Marine Bike from the Armoury (he has an Iron Steed from the Bike entry instead) and thus cannot upgrade his weapon.

WAAAAY to many points in your Daemon prince. Keep him lean and mean, with maybe Axe of Khorne+ccw and daemonic gifts, or dark blade+ccw and daemonic gifts. 225 points is more than a fifth of your points. That's pushing it in even 1500 points games.

Berzerkers look good, but the champs shouldn't have frags, because they have powerfists. Feel no pain is bad too, because he will have to be the last one alive to use it.

3 bikers will die. Get more or leave em at home.

The defiler is a fragile points sink. Give it indirect and nothing more, or better yet, drop it and get 2 predators with lascannons.

Regarding Feel No Pain: he wouldn't necessarily have to be the last model alive in his unit in order to use it, especially when your opponent remembers to use the Torrent of Fire/Fire Superiority rule to pick him out. I know I've lost a fair few Champions through that...

Agree with most all of the points so far, with the exception of the bikes.  I say keep them in there, especially since I worked some demons into your list ...

HQ

Lord - MoK, furious charge, 2 ccw, speed, stature, aura, feel no pain, frags = 143

Troops

8 Berzerkers - MoK, 7 chainaxes, frags, AC w/ powerfist, tbb, frags = 187

8 Berzerkers - MoK, 7 chainaxes, frags, AC w/ powerfist, tbb, frags = 187

6 Bloodletters = 156

Fast Attak

3 Bikers - MoK, skilled riders, AC w/ powerfist = 151

Heavy Support

Defiler - Indirect = 175

Total: 999 points

Stripped down the gunk, got some nasty 'letters in there.  Hope you like.

- Boss Salvage

Edit: I switched the essence on the prince for furious charge - 4 wounds with 3/5/4+ saves is a bit much @ 1000, when you could be S6 I6 on the charge instead.