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Made in au
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The USSR aka the place with the bombs

Ok am thinking of have a bit of a mix and mach Eldar army eith a large uses of elite troops. Manly agents lower model count armys so hear it goes

HQ

The Avitar Of Khaine - 155

Eldrad Ulthrad - 210

Total – 365

Elites

6 Fire Dragons

+Exarch with Fire Pike & Tank Hunters - 131

9 Howling Banshees

+ Exarch with Executioner - 166

Total - 277

Troops

10 Guardians - 110

With Bright Lance

11 Guardians - 113

With Star Cannon

Total - 223

Fast Attack

4 Shining Spears - 177

+ Exarch with Starlance & Skilled Rider

4 Shining Spears - 177

+ Exarch with Starlance & Skilled Rider

6 Swooping hawks – 168

+ Exarch with Hawk’s Talon, Skyleap & Intercept

Total - 522

Heavy Support

Dark Reapers – 207

+ Exarch with Fast Shot

Falcon - 215

With Star Cannon, Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines, Holo Fields & Spirit Stones

Fire Prisom - 190

With Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines, Holo Fields & Spirit Stones

Total - 612

Grand Total – 1999Pt

 

Basically the Fire dragons go in the Falcon and get out to take out heavy tanks and Terminators and other hard targets like HQ’s. Prisom and Falcon dance round and fire at suitable targets Reapers Shoot at any thing with a 3+ save. The shining spears go change terminators and anything else with high T or a good save with the support of the banshees and the hawks go kill Monoliths/Land Raiders and light infantry. And the Avitar gose some were in the middle to make every thing fearless also Eldrad sits back guides, dooms and mind war things.

Any comments will be welcome and improvements.

Thanks

   
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My take (derived from what I hear from others and my experience against eldar...


HQ

The Avitar Of Khaine - 155

Eldrad Ulthrad - 210

Those 2 are hard and even complement on and other. Eldrad can fortune the avatar to make him almost indestructible. Then eldrad can still fortune and guide the reapers, or doom a squad. these 2 are IMHO a solid choise.


Total ? 365

Elites

6 Fire Dragons

+Exarch with Fire Pike & Tank Hunters - 131

Snakes on a plane. Seems to work, although a bit fragile. (not that good a save and you need the falcon to get close to the enemy...)


9 Howling Banshees

+ Exarch with Executioner - 166

Are these on foot-patrol? they die pretty easily on foot, because of their 4+ save. most people advise harlies with kisses over bansheesnowadays, although I have not seen harlys on the field yet. I can however concurr that the banshees die easily to shooting...


Total - 277

Troops

10 Guardians - 110

With Bright Lance

11 Guardians - 113

With Star Cannon

You want them cheap then just take 2 shuricanns. You want them trying to take out tanks, take 2 brightlance units. You want balance take 2 eldar missile. Point is give them a job. 1 starcannon is not making a big difference with a shuri-cannon because of rate of fire. The Missile will provide antitank and antitroop (especially bunched up troop...)


Total - 223

Fast Attack

4 Shining Spears - 177

+ Exarch with Starlance & Skilled Rider


4 Shining Spears - 177

+ Exarch with Starlance & Skilled Rider

2 reasonably expensive units, but they are good on a charge. But what are you going to do when they do not break the enemy? after the first round they do not have the staying-power of the Hight T goos save dedicated combat units. Maybe instead of skilled rider take hit and run for both...


6 Swooping hawks ? 168

+ Exarch with Hawk?s Talon, Skyleap & Intercept

I personally like these, but might go with a sun rifle. Matter of preferense though.


Total - 522

Heavy Support

Dark Reapers ? 207

+ Exarch with Fast Shot

Expensive and fragile (only 5 man strong) but awesome weaponry. They will be prime target though and as such will need fortune to keep them alive... Maybe a second falcon would be better for the job...


Falcon - 215

With Star Cannon, Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines, Holo Fields & Spirit Stones

drop the starcannon and take shuricannon. this is cheaper and just as effective (even better at hordes...)


Fire Prisom - 190

With Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines, Holo Fields & Spirit Stones
Nice change of pase, But I am preferring 2 prisms or no prisms... It is good 'normal' troop and deep strike killer though...


Total - 612

Grand Total ? 1999Pt



I think it is a nice list, but it has it's weaker points.

Do what you want with the advise, You can just try it and maybe you will have a few fun games...
   
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Florida

I've found the Dragons are one of my ace units. However, I've only needed the basic 5 man squad with no upgrades. For 80 points, they are worth every point.

Howling Banshees on foot. Not too confident that would work.

I use 3x10 Guardians in my 2000 point army. With the Avatar, they are very expendible cheap units. However, their BS really needs to be helped by lots of shots. For less points, you can take the Guardians w/ Scatterlasers. This has been the best combination I've used so far of all the weapon platform choices.

The Falcon is fine, but if you're looking to save some points, then switch the Starcannon for a Shur Cannon. That is what I'm using for my Fire Dragon transport and it works pretty well.

Eldrad and the Avatar work well together. I've had pretty good experiences running both. The rest of your army I really haven't used or played against, so I can't really say.

Hope this helps.

No earth shattering, thought provoking quote. I'm just someone who was introduced to 40K in the late 80's and it's become a lifelong hobby. 
   
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The USSR aka the place with the bombs

for my Shining Spears ill drop the skilled rider and get hit and run but for that i will loss the Exarch for my fire dragons. wont realy drop there efectiveness at tanks much. But any way 8 spears + 2 Exarch put out 18A on the chage with high WS and S that can kill 10 SM but so i can see myself geting unlucky and geting smashed so i could run and try agen next turn. as for putting the banshees in a wave supant i dont know were i can get the points for it.
   
 
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