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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/22 16:00:52
Subject: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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any feed back for this army would be gr8ly apreciated HQ: Chaos Lord 162 pts - Base 60pts
- Mark of Chaos Undivided 5pts
- Bolt pistol 1pt
- Dark Blade 25 pts
- Frag Grenades 1pt
- Personal Icon 10pts
- Demonic armour 20pts
- Demonic Strength 10pts
- Demonic essence 15pts
- Demonic Resilience 10pts
- Furious Charge 15pts
Elites: Obliterator Cult · 1 Obliterator 70pts Troops: Chaos Space Marine Squad 125pts - 8 Marines 112pts
- Heavy Bolter 5 pts
- 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts
Chaos Space Marine Squad 130pts - 8 marines 112pts
- Plasma gun
- 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts
- Chaos icon free
Chaos Space Marine Squad 192pts - 2 plasma pistols 20pts
- Aspiring Champion 13pts
- Power fist 15pts
- 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts
- Furious Charge Veteran Skill (x8) 24pts
- Chaos Icon Free (Given to Aspiring Champion)
Daemon Pack 156pts Fast Attack: Daemonic Beasts 168pts · 8 Flesh hounds 168pts Total 1003pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/22 23:54:32
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Make it 8 bloodletters. Khorne's favored number is 8 so it is very fluffy to use 8.
I like your list overall. It should be fun but there isn't much anti tank in this list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/23 11:34:37
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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ok thx i was thinking about dropping the flesh hounds and sticking in another oblitorator or 2 and using extra points to up the numbers in the blood letter squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/23 16:40:18
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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I'd consider dropping the lord down to a lieutenant with dark blade, bolt pistol and if you have to, daemonic mutations. He doesn't need that much kit in 1k, seriously, a DP is way over the top below 1.5k. With the points saved from that you could get an extra obliterator and swap that heavy bolter for a plasma gun. This gives you more mobile firepower. Also, just so we can give better advice, what armies are you expecting to verse? -Cheers Librarian
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/23 16:45:30
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Put the plasma gun in the hb squad and add 8 CSMs to the other squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/23 17:39:22
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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Also, just so we can give better advice, what armies are you expecting to verse? i plan to verse SM armys as well as guard and nids and thx for the advise about the lord i probly will drop him down to luitenant with dark blade and BP i probly will gve the mutations alright so this is the edited list so keep the suggestions coming HQ: Chaos Luitenant 91pts Base 45 Mark chaos undivided 5pts Bolt pistol 1pt Dark Blade 25 pts Deamonic mutation 15pts Elites: Obliterator Cult · 1 Obliterator 70pts Troops: Chaos Space Marine Squad 130pts 8 Marines 112pts Plasma Gun x2, 20pts 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts Chaos icon free Chaos Space Marine Squad 130pts 8 marines 112pts Plasma gun 10pts 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts Chaos icon free Chaos Space Marine Squad 192pts 8 marines 112pts 2 plasma pistols 20pts Aspiring Champion 13pts Power fist 15pts 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts Furious Charge Veteran Skill (x8) 24pts Chaos Icon Free (Given to Aspiring Champion) Daemon Pack 208pts 8 Blood Letters 208 pts Fast Attack: Daemonic Beasts 168pts · 8 Flesh hounds 168pts Total 999pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/23 19:45:06
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Drop the hounds, they never do exceptionally well in games. Add an Aspiring Champion to each squad and tool them up with a power fists, or just try and add another squad of bloodletters, if you take another squad of bloodletters in place of the hounds, it may not be fluffy (not a squad of 8) but it'll still work better than the hounds in my opinion. Another idea would be to take a squad of daemonettes (33 rending attacks on the charge in a squad of 11), they are probably the best type of daemon in an assault, and judging by your army, that's what you're going to be using your daemons for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/24 11:24:30
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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alright i might i was also thinking about dropping them for a couple of oblitorators and giving my luitenatnt daemonic aura
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/24 15:38:45
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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If you're going to add another 15 points onto your character you might as well make him a Lord for that extra wound, but if you insist on taking it as a Lieutenant, buy resilience instead of aura. Resilience will be much more effective as it'll reduce your opponents chances of damaging you (and most of the time you're taking armour saves as opposed to invunerable saves). The obliterators are a nice idea as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/24 16:44:48
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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alright so this is the revised edited list HQ: Chaos Luitenant 91pts Base 45 Mark chaos undivided 5pts Bolt pistol 1pt Dark Blade 25 pts Deamonic mutation 15pts Elites: Obliterator Cult 210pts · 3 Obliterator 210pts Troops: Chaos Space Marine Squad 151pts 8 Marines 112pts with bolters Plasma Gun x2, 20pts 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts Aspiring champion 13pts daemonic fire 5pts daemonic venom 3pts Chaos icon free Chaos Space Marine Squad 143pts 8 marines 112pts with bolters Plasma gun 10pts 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts Aspiring Champion 13pts daemonic strength 5pts Chaos icon free Chaos Space Marine Squad 192pts 8 marines 112pts with close combat weopon and BP 2 plasma pistols 20pts Aspiring Champion 13pts Power fist 15pts 8 marks of chaos undivided 8pts Furious Charge Veteran Skill (x8) 24pts Chaos Icon Free (Given to Aspiring Champion) Daemon Pack 208pts 8 Blood Letters 208 pts i gave aspiring champions to the chaos marine squads and gave them some upgrades daemonic fire and daemonic venom for 1 and daemonic strength for the other but if you have better suggestions for upgrades tell me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/24 17:16:20
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd drop one obliterator, and the plasma gun from the 2nd squad. Put two meltaguns in there, and give the AC a powerfist. Now swap d strength over to the other squads aspiring champ, and downgrade the powerfist to a power weapon so he can take advantage of the furious charge you gave the squad. Swap the plasmas guns in the first squad for meltas, and give the ac a pw as well. You should have 40 points left over. Might as well give that squad furious charge too.
Oh yeah...drop mutation from the lt and give him aura. the 5+ inv is a better deal. spiky bits basically gives you the extra attack that mutation gives you, as you'll usually miss once each turn. Aside from that...have fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/24 17:31:30
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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i cant do the meltas as i already have the plasmas assembled i might do the other stuff though and theres no point giving a squad with bolters furious charge.
this is my battle plan i stick the luitenant in with the marine squad with bolt pistols and close combat weopons then charge them foward with the other two marine squads guarding there flanks and taking out dreadnoughts and the like so that the squad cant be damaged then the blood leters come in and help out the close combat marine squad then all the while the oblitorators are either shooting at tanks or droping down and taking an objective
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/24 18:34:48
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Any cc demon prince or lieutenant should have infiltrate and demonic speed. These two in combination give him a good chance to get a first turn charge on a squad not really designed for combat allowing him to remove shooting squads such as devastators.
Pretty cheap and damned effective.
Infiltrate out of line of sight between 12 and 17 inches away, Have him move through the terrain, then roll fleet of foot (from Demonic Speed) it ignores cover, then attempt assault. Just in case you don't make it you could always be an ass and have him summon some demons on your 2nd turn, along with his assault that should put a damper on any army.
Lieutenant Dark Blade Demonic Resilience Demonic Speed Infiltrate Spikey Bits Bolt Pistol Demonic Armour
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/24 22:12:00
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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good plan but i might leave that for 1500pts, 1000pts is standard ad the GW where i play
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/25 09:49:06
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I always field a Lt. with mutation, strength, speed, lightning claws, MC and spiky bit. This guy kills off 5 marines a round(usually his killzone, which lets him kill the other half on thier combat phase, and usually protects him from hidden fisting. Of course I run an emp children army so with mark of slanesh and or doom siren he always gos first. I don't even infiltrate him and turn 1 or 2 he is charging vulnerable squads and eating them alive.
One thing I also do is I field posessed with no extra upgrades instead of regualr marines with bp and ccw. THis gives them invul save, and str. 5 and is only slightly more expensive than my reg. marines kit for close combat .. of course I have that pesky 5 point mark on every model so for undivided it will cost slightly more than a reg squad.
Daemonettes rule! Cheap at 15 points(2 for every bloodletter) and rending is the great equalizer. I have had a squad of 6 tear down a termie squad and then follow up into a dread and take him down too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/04/27 10:48:57
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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yeah um i really want to be taking possesed at what is it 27pts per model thats 270pts for a 10man squad thats more then a qauter of my army gone from 1 squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/05/07 17:37:26
Subject: RE: Chaos Undivided (friendly)
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Been Around the Block
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if totaly re done the list and made it totaly un-divided and im playing it at 1500pts HQ-Chaos Lord 153pts base 60pts, mark of undivided 5pts, plasma pistol 15pts, dark blade 25pts, frag and krak grenades 3pts, teleport homer 5pts, deamonic flight 20pts and deamon armour 20pts Elites-Chosen 297pts 6 Chosen Terminators 180pts, 4 power fists 20pts, reaper auto cannon 20pts, 6 marks of undivided 6pts, aspiring champion 10pts, sorcerer 5pts and wind of chaos 20pts -Obltorator Cult: 1 Oblitorator 70pts Troops:590pts CSM squad (211pts) 8 CSM 112pts, 2 plasma pistols 20pts, 8 marks of undivided 8pts, furious charge 24pts, Infiltrate 24pts, aspiring champion 13pts and power sword 10pts CSM squad (211pts) 8 CSM 112pts, 2 Melta guns 20pts, 8 marks of undivided 8pts, Infiltrate 24pts, furious charge 24pts, Aspiring champion 13pts and Power sword 10pts CSM squad (168pts) 8 CSM 112pts, 2 Plasma guns 20pts, 8 marks of undivided 8pts, Aspiring champion 13pts and Power fist 15pts Fast Attack-Raptor Squad 214pts 5 Raptors 145pts, 1 flamers 6pts, plasma pistol 10pts, 5 marks of undivided 5pts, Furious charge 15pts, Aspiring Champion 13pts, Power Sword 10pts and Plasma Pistol 10pts Heavy support- Defiler 180pts, base 150pts & Mutated Hull 30pts Total 1504pts
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