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2007/06/19 01:36:01
Subject: Eldar 2K
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Eldar army based on the army box. I'm avoiding Harlequins as they're ubiquitous and very hard to fit into my color scheme. HQ: Avatar - 155 HQ: Farseer, Runes of Witnessing, Singing Spear, Doom, Fortune -123 EL: 10 Banshees, Exarch with Executioner, War Shout and Acrobatic -192 Wave Serpent Transport with Spirit Stones and Twin-BL - 145 EL: 6 Fire Dragons, Exarch with Firepike - 116 TR: 10 Guardians, Scatter Laser Platform - 95 TR: 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch with PW, Shimmershield and Bladestorm - 162 TR: 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch with PW, Shimmershield and Bladestorm - 162 Wave Serpent with Spirit Stones and Twin-BL - 145 TR: 5 Pathfinders - 120 FA: Vyper with 2x Shuriken Cannon - 60 HS: Wraithlord with 2x Catapult, BL, EML - 155 HS: Falcon with Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones - 185 HS: Falcon with Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones - 185 Total: 2000 points Suggestions? I'm pretty new to the Codex so I'm open to ideas on configuring the Falcons and Exarchs or swapping auxilliary units around.
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2007/06/19 04:49:28
Subject: RE: Eldar 2K
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Thanks for the advice. Revised list: HQ: Avatar - 155 HQ: Farseer, Singing Spear, Doom, Fortune -113 EL: 10 Banshees, Exarch with Executioner, War Shout and Acrobatic -192 Wave Serpent with Spirit Stones, Vectored Engines and Twin-BL - 165 EL: 5 Fire Dragons - 80 TR: 10 Guardians, Scatter Laser Platform, Warlock with Spiritseer, Singing Spear, Conceal - 144 TR: 6 Dire Avengers, Exarch with 2x Catapult and Bladestorm - 89 TR: 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch with PW, Shimmershield and Bladestorm - 162 Wave Serpent with Spirit Stone, Vectored Engines and Twin-BL - 165 TR: 5 Pathfinders - 120 FA: Vyper with 2x Shuriken Cannon - 60 HS: Wraithlord with 2x Catapult, BL, EML - 155 HS: Falcon with Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones, Vectored Engines - 205 HS: Falcon with Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones, Vectored Engines - 205 Total: 2000 points
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2007/06/19 05:14:20
Subject: RE: Eldar 2K
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Executing Exarch
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shirou has covered most of it. A few things to add:
I don't know if it's worth getting Guardians with a scatter laser. You're already paying a compulsory 80 points for what will almost always end up just being ablative wounds for the heavy weapon, so I would want to give them something that will make a difference. Your army has not that much in terms of tank-busting, so I'd go for an EML, BS3 notwithstanding.
Dual shuricannons on the Vyper seems like a bad idea to me. For that price, you could have gotten a scatter laser instead, allowing the Vyper to stay 12" further away. It makes quite a big difference to a vehicle that can be threatened by rapid-firing bolters!
Why shuricats on the WL? In any situation I can imagine where you'd rather fire your secondary weapons than your two heavy weapons, flamers would do a lot more good.
shirou mentioned the Vectored Engines thing, but I'd put it more strongly: VE is not just recommended, but almost necessary. It would be worthwhile for the passenger safety alone, but when you consider the additional firepower it will require from your enemy to finish the job--firepower that isn't being directed at your other vehicles, your Avatar or your Wraithlord--there is really no reason not to get it.
Still on the Falcons, it may be worthwhile to give one of them Star Engines. It's fairly affordable, and depending on the size of the table and the way your opponent deploys, having SE could mean destroying the Fire Dragons' target one turn earlier than you could have otherwise, which can be huge. Of course, they'll certainly die immediately after that, but that will happen regardless. Having one Falcon way ahead of the rest of your army after delivering its payload will give another advantage, too: it will tempt (and sometimes force, due to target priority checks) your opponent to focus fire on it, a definite good thing unless of course it ends up allowing your opponent to take shots at it that he would not otherwise have been able to direct at anything.
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Wehrkind wrote:Sounds like a lot, but with a little practice I can do ~7-8 girls in 2-3 hours. Probably less if the cat and wife didn't want attention in that time. |
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2007/06/19 06:49:27
Subject: RE: Eldar 2K
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm intrigued that you have decided against taking spirit stones for your Farseer, given how useful both Doom & Fortune will be turn after turn? Any reason? (That's not a challenge, but an honest question)
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"Bloodstorm! Ravenblade! Slayer of worlds! Felt the power throb in his weapon. He clutched it tightly in his hand and turned towards his foe letting it build in the twin energy spheres and then finally! RELEASE! The throbbing weapon ejaculated burning white fluid over them as Bloodstorm! Ravenblade! laughed manfully!" - From the epic novel, Bloodstorm! Ravenblade! Obliterates! the! Universe! coming in 2010 from the Black Library [Kid Kyoto] |
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2007/06/20 02:06:49
Subject: RE: Eldar 2K
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Tribune: First list. I wasn't sure that I'd be in range for Doom most of the time. I'll try them out.
Editing the list again:
HQ: Avatar - 155
HQ: Farseer, Singing Spear, Spirit Stones, Doom, Fortune -133
EL: 10 Banshees, Exarch with Executioner, War Shout and Acrobatic -192 Wave Serpent with Spirit Stones, Vectored Engines and Twin-BL - 165
EL: 5 Fire Dragons - 80
TR: 10 Guardians, EML Platform, Warlock with Spiritseer, Singing Spear, Conceal - 149
TR: 6 Dire Avengers, Exarch with 2x Catapult and Bladestorm - 89
TR: 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch with PW, Shimmershield and Bladestorm - 162 Wave Serpent with Spirit Stone, Vectored Engines and Twin-BL - 165
TR: 5 Pathfinders - 120
FA: Vyper with Scatter Laser, Twin Shuriken Catapults - 60
HS: Wraithlord with 2x Flamers, BL, EML - 155
HS: Falcon with Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones, Vectored Engines - 205
HS: Falcon with Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields, Spirit Stones, Vectored Engines - 205
Total: 2025 points
I'm now 25 points over... need to trim some fat.
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2007/06/20 03:15:31
Subject: RE: Eldar 2K
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Executing Exarch
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If you're looking to trim fat, the Banshee Exarch is the one thing that leaps out at me. That alone would do it. Another solution could be to keep the Exarch (if you really want it--maybe you like the model, or just want to fit maximum killing power into the WS), but drop the Exarch powers as well as swap one of the Wave Serpents down to EML instead of BL.
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Wehrkind wrote:Sounds like a lot, but with a little practice I can do ~7-8 girls in 2-3 hours. Probably less if the cat and wife didn't want attention in that time. |
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2007/06/20 03:51:05
Subject: RE: Eldar 2K
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Agreed about the Banshee Exarch. She really isn't worth the points.
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"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - J. Robert Oppenheimer - Exterminatus had it's roots way back in history. |
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