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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/03 22:34:40
Subject: 40k movie in the works?
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just found this link on cgchannel, figured i put it here before i forget about it. http://www.cgchannel.com/job/seeker/viewjob.jsp?jobid=705 its just a job request, so it could be anything. but since it was a international job i guess there has to be some amount of cash involved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/03 22:39:07
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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From what I've heard about GW's attitude to a 40k movie, they get requests to make one very frequently, but either turn them down immediately, or scare off the approaching party with some rather fierce demands, not limited to the option to immediately pull the plug without warning or refund. My guess is that this job is movei related, then it' for a concept artist to produce a portfolio with a view of approaching GW and attempting to get the rights to the movie. However, I believe that it's more likely to be related to another 40k-based game, which seem to be increasingly common these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 02:09:08
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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looks like it's for a game .. if you go to the site for the folks collecting the resumes, they're headhunters for game & web jobs
I read once that if GW was to allow a 40K movie they'd want complete control over every aspect from set design to directing and everything.. So if that's the truth, don't hold your breath waiting for a movie, hollywood would never let that happen, and I don't think GW will have 100 million to spare to make the CGI laden extravaganza a 40K movie would have to be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 03:46:32
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I would suspect it is for designing the CGI for Dawn of War 2 or some such. Or, dare I dream, 40k Online.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 03:52:48
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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[DCM]
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I think another reason for GW not wanting to do a movie is that once things in the movie are shown, they are permanently canon (part of the official background), and it'll be that much harder to backpedal on a fluff point later.
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Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1 - BBAP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 03:58:17
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Phanobi
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That doesn't make any sense. What's the difference between canon that's written and canon that's filmed? Plus, there are plenty of examples of movies backpedaling on canon (ever see the Highlander movies and the TV show?).
Ozymandias, King of Kings
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 05:32:44
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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[DCM]
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Mostly that a film has a much, much wider audience and a far larger budget. Ever see the backlash about Greedo shooting first? That was a small change. Compare that to the Star Wars novels that are still coming out; have you read many of those?
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DQ:70S++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k94+ID+++A++/sWD178R+++T(I)DM+++
Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1 - BBAP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 05:33:04
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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[DCM]
Sentient OverBear
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Sweet! Our sigs finally line up!
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DQ:70S++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k94+ID+++A++/sWD178R+++T(I)DM+++
Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1 - BBAP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 05:45:47
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Phanobi
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Has that always been your sig? If so, that's funny...
I don't think a film having a large audience would really stop GW from changing the fluff. Also, I think that a small scale story set in the 40k Universe (like Eisenhorn or Ventriel's story) would be more likely than the Horus Heresy or 13th Crusade. The smaller stories don't need as much back story to make them work.
Ozymandias, King of Kings
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 05:52:58
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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I am thinking that this is for a game, perhaps WaR.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 06:19:32
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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yeah, it seems a bit more likely that its for some game. but the wording "major international project" really makes me ambivalent in what it could be. But if it was for a game, they could just hire Blur Studios again, as they are the types who like working on small 3-10 minute clips for different stuff, and they have truly shown their skills at doing so.
this is why i'm thinking that its more likely to be connected to someone who is either A: too poor to hire Blur to do their graphics for games, which doesn't bode well as its become practically compulsory for them to make intro movies for Warhammer-games. or B: someone's gathering up a group of artists for a long-time project that Blur isn't able to help out on, most likely a movie or something close to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 08:23:16
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
Maple Valley, Washington, Holy Terra
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It's just concept art. Very early in the production pipeline. Could be anything, or it could end up being nothing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 12:14:29
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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That dude that played Xerxes in 300 would make an awesome Emperor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 13:39:46
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Rampaging Carnifex
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I hope it is an official projekt because GW turned against fan movie projects. Since July there is a petition round for saving the german fan movie Damnatus. http://www.petitiononline.com/damnatus/petition.html I was a bit disapointed that they do not make some little movies for "Winter Assault" and "Dark Crusade". Wasn't thee enough response to the ones in "Dawn of War", "Mark of Chaos" and "Warhammer Online". There really should be some series for adults made. At least we can hope of some nice stuff in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/04 16:24:49
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I just signed the Petition. I doubt that it will get anywhere though, but bloody good on 'em.
If it wasn't for the fact that i love 40k so much, I would have returned my "Dark Crusade & Winter Assault" Games.
Cheap-skate behaviour. Same Intro Movie?!? Screen-shots and out-takes...
If somebody else makes a 40k Movie, then GOOD.
GW seems to not give a F*ck.(Except for thier cut of da $$$$)
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"Dakkanaut" not "Dakkaite"
Only with Minatures, does size matter...
"Only the living collect a pension"Johannes VII
"If the ork codex and 5th were developed near the same time, any possible nerf will be pre-planned."-malfred
"I'd do it but the GW Website makes my eyes hurt. "Gwar
"That would be page 7 and a half. You find it by turning your rulebook on its side and slamming your head against it..." insaniak
MeanGreenStompa - The only chatbot I ever tried talking to insisted I take a stress pill and kept referring to me as Dave, despite my protestations.
insaniak "So, by 'serious question' you actually meant something entirely different? "
Frazzled[Mod] On Rule #1- No it literally means: be polite. If we wanted less work there would be no OT section.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/05 04:18:47
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
Maple Valley, Washington, Holy Terra
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Posted By akira5665 on 09/04/2007 9:24 PM GW seems to not give a F*ck.(Except for thier cut of da $$$$) I disagree. The reason that they haven't licensed a movie is because of their desire to maintain control over their intellectual property. If they were merely concerned with money, they'd let the highest bidder do whatever they wanted with the 40K property.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/05 08:44:17
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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Gwe has problems with official films after a plan for a film based on Deathwing in the early nineties. GW gave the studio a hefty research grant but the film never materialised. It cost the company a lot of money for nothing since then they have been wary of official film lines.
This uis a seperate issue to that surrouinding Damnatus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/05 09:50:37
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fair enough Pariah. I didn't realyy think of it that way. Considering "MARVEL" & "DC" comics sold thier rights to make movies of Superheroes(you know what I mean.) we have had about a 33% win-rate with decent movies that concern heroes.
If they had the same ratio with 40k movies, we would all be livid.
It's just that the intro flick was soooo good in Dawn of War, it really put me in the mood for more!!!!
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"Dakkanaut" not "Dakkaite"
Only with Minatures, does size matter...
"Only the living collect a pension"Johannes VII
"If the ork codex and 5th were developed near the same time, any possible nerf will be pre-planned."-malfred
"I'd do it but the GW Website makes my eyes hurt. "Gwar
"That would be page 7 and a half. You find it by turning your rulebook on its side and slamming your head against it..." insaniak
MeanGreenStompa - The only chatbot I ever tried talking to insisted I take a stress pill and kept referring to me as Dave, despite my protestations.
insaniak "So, by 'serious question' you actually meant something entirely different? "
Frazzled[Mod] On Rule #1- No it literally means: be polite. If we wanted less work there would be no OT section.
Chowderhead - God no. If I said Pirates Honor, I would have had to kill him whether he won or lost. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/05 10:41:03
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Focused Fire Warrior
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maybe it's for an add campain ? TV commercials to boost sales & get more people into the hobby X-mas is coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/06 09:00:51
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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If they gonna make a movie what races they gonna use if they use all movie gonna suck and if they donyt use enough they gonna piss the people who play those races off When his hands are higher then his head his groin is level with your teeth
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/10 11:07:55
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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They already have the ultimate 40k movie script..... it's the ragnar series.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/10 17:57:35
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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We'll only see a 40k movie once Blizzard does a starcraft movie and GW realizes they once again failed to capitalize on their IP. It amazes me that for a company that protects its IP so rigorously it sure doesn't do too much with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/09/25 22:17:28
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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They should make a Space Hulk movie.
1) Terminators. 2) Tyranids. 3) Creepy as hell. 4) Little to no effect on canon, 'just a bunch of guys' and 'just a bunch of bugs'
Who knows maybe they could even make a quick $50 mil. They wouldn't need cgi ala Dawn of War or LotR.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/10/03 23:54:13
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Posted By Tacobake on 09/26/2007 3:17 AM They should make a Space Hulk movie. 1) Terminators. 2) Tyranids. 3) Creepy as hell. 4) Little to no effect on canon, 'just a bunch of guys' and 'just a bunch of bugs' Who knows maybe they could even make a quick $50 mil. They wouldn't need cgi ala Dawn of War or LotR. Wouldn't that just be Alien 5...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/10/04 03:36:09
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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Posted By Grubsnik on 10/04/2007 4:54 AM Posted By Tacobake on 09/26/2007 3:17 AM They should make a Space Hulk movie. 1) Terminators. 2) Tyranids. 3) Creepy as hell. 4) Little to no effect on canon, 'just a bunch of guys' and 'just a bunch of bugs' Who knows maybe they could even make a quick $50 mil. They wouldn't need cgi ala Dawn of War or LotR. Wouldn't that just be Alien 5...?
Sounds like copyright infringement to me, Gee-Dub isn't normally big on that sort of thing Maybe they'll make an exception for this case.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/10/04 09:16:05
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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How about the following ideas;
1. A lone Necron warrior crash is teleported back in time to kill the Emperor's mother. But the Imps send back Gaunt to help. 2. Imperial stormtroopers and Sentinels storm the forest base of some furry squats. 3. A lone genestealer makes its way onto a commercial space hulk and plays havoc with the crew.
All great ideas right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/10/07 21:36:57
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Haha fourganger i like your plan!!! I think the answer to the what would the movie be about question is simple .... Horus Heresy And by the way to whoever posted about it before, you know there is a 40k MMO coming out from THQ right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/10/08 02:03:06
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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If there's a 40k movie, It better have The Rock >_>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/10/08 04:48:26
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Posted By Maximus_Prime on 10/08/2007 7:03 AM If there's a 40k movie, It better have The Rock >_> Errrmmm, NO! The Rock is American, and everyone knows Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, and in fact all Imperial Forces are British..... You Americans have your Marvel Super Heroes, and Colonial space marines, but the Emperors finest are from good old UK, in fact I think they all come from Hereford you know!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/10/08 08:00:32
Subject: RE: 40k movie in the works?
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I could dig on some Space Hulk filming, or maybe an Inquisitor with Sisters tracking down a chaos incursion. I don't think that the Horus Heresy would be a great place to start, and here is why:
The Heresy requires a great deal of knowledge forward and back to really get in the epic sense. Having to explain the Age of Darkness, the rise of the Emperor and the Great Crusades wouldn't be so bad, five minutes would do it. Explaining space marines, chaos, eldar, the fall of the elar (and Slanesh) etc etc. would be harder, but maybe only 10 minutes. Doing them together though, that would be tricky to do without it seeming like a history lesson. Add in the fact you have to gain empathy towards the space marines (not too hard because they are human) and at the same time present the forboding of just how massive the betrayal of Horus is, as well as the sense of loss for the fall of man, getting all that into one movie would be impossible to do well. Three movies might do it well enough. Still, that is a BIG investment. Easier is to sort of slide the viewer into things. Start out with "In the far future there is only war... Here are Space Marines..." and let us watch them to learn they have tough armor, and are giants who can rip off arms etc. Show us how they protect against evils, and how people fall to Chaos, and why that is bad. Add references to the Heresy as well as other bits of fluff. Hearing "The Emperor protects!" and "In his GLORIOUS NAME!" a few times really drives home that he is important and a minor god without having to narrate "The Emperor rules mankind and is a tiny god." So that is the first movie. If it does badly, well, it is sort of throw away and any changes to cannon are minor. ("The planet was virus bombed one year after the events of the movie, and no longer matters.") If it does well, THEN you plan the epic. Now that people know the Emperor is important, but not what happens to him, you show him being all heroic, how Horus is his best buddy, but we know he does something bad. Then you can really play that up, without people asking "What's up with these guys in armor in space?" In other words, you want the epic to be about the characters in the story, with the guns, aliens, evil gods and power armor merely being background. You make that possible by having another film that establishes those themes as fixed entities, so people know what to expect.
It is sort of like the Matrix films (may the Emperor forgive me mentioning them in the same post as Space Marines!). The first film made a big deal of the Matrix, the agents and the resistance right off the bat, so the second two films could use those points as assumptions without drawing attention to them. Their great failing was that they didn't have a great story to cap off those assumptions, but rather tried to keep topping their own ideas, which became stale and dry very fast. The Lord of the Rings series is the other analogue, but they had two great advantages that Warhammer 40k does not: nearly every fantasy series or even general idea was based off of them, and the main characters were also new to the world, and so everything could be explained to them as things went without being dull. Warhammer's ideas of Chaos and technology is rather foreign compared to most stock sci-fi (not only space ships, but magic and demons too) and so just dropping people in will not work; there is simply too much to take in while paying attention to a larger sweeping epic. (I can only imagine snapping at my wife or mother after the 20th time they ask "What? Why did that guy do that?") The other issue is that unless you used guardsmen or scouts (not a bad idea) off a remote planet as a reason to explain EVERYTHING, too much of the cannon is going to be common knowledge. Every space marine knows what their power armor is and who the Emperor is, as well as their mission to cleanse the empire back for mankind. The warp is used frequently enough by any marine that he knows the dangers of it. There is a lot taken for granted that would have to be carefully explained if they want people to accept it as "fact".
Now, I am not saying it can't be done. I am just saying I think it would work better in the format of "Here is how it is. Now here is how it became that way." Now, a 6 movie saga is probably too much to ask for, but I could deal with 3-4.
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