sure they keep stuff busy, but they still die. they can't appear and make it into combat in the same turn unless they appear within 6" of an enemy unit (rarely gonna happen) thus they become pulp after a turn of shooting. My guard ripped into three units of daemons in one turn, killed all 30, with only 4 of my 7 infantry squads shooting. the rest of my 137 models on the field made mince meat of the rest of the guys army. daemons now distract gamers and make them waste points on stuff that for 2pts more has all the same stats, plus power armor and shooting, and minus an invulnerable. i say take more marines instead of the new daemons
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