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I'm trying to make a competive gaurd list for my friend. I tried to make it well rounded but I'm not sure how well it will fair.

Doctrines
Close order
Drop troops

Junior officer
plasma pistol
4 plasma guns
90

4 psykers
Bolt pistols
52

Troops

Junior officer
plas Pistol
4 plas
90

10 guardsmen
las
plas
95

10 guardsmen
las
plas
95

10 guardsmen
las
plas
95

Junior officer
Plas pistol
4 plas
90

10 guardsmen
Plas
70

10 guardsmen
Plas
70

10 guardsmen
Plas
70

Leman russ Demolisher
HB
HB sponsons
EA
SL
TG
183

Leman russ Demolisher
HB
HB sponsons
EA
SL
TG
183

Leman russ Demolisher
HB
HB sponsons
EA
SL
TG
183

Hellhound
track gaurds
EA
SL
133

1499pt's 19 plasma weapons 3 las cannons 3 Vindicators 79 models 4 tanks.
My idea was to have the tanks deployed just in front of my gaurd lines protecting them from bolter fire ect, have the HQ and the 2nd troop deepstike in to any objectives or fill holes in my line.

Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated

A quick fix I can see... (I'll be back to edit for more ideas)

Drop the psykers and the plasma pistols on the junior officers, then buy lascannons on the other 3 infantry squads. you'll need them.

I also think you will need one of those officer units to be a leadership base for the 6 10 man squads. One falcon with extra armor will dance past your drop units, and pull a 24" tank shock. Without re-rollable LD9, many if not all of your firebase will fall back. You can protect them with demolishers on the flanks, but those guy might need to move up to get in range or capture an objective.

Other than that it seems pretty straightforward, decently strong list at the small size you are playing at.

let us know how he does with it.

Author Message
Shep 2007/12/10 16:12:31 Subject: Re:Guard 1500

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A quick fix I can see... (I'll be back to edit for more ideas)

Drop the psykers and the plasma pistols on the junior officers, then buy lascannons on the other 3 infantry squads. you'll need them.

I also think you will need one of those officer units to be a leadership base for the 6 10 man squads. One falcon with extra armor will dance past your drop units, and pull a 24" tank shock. Without re-rollable LD9, many if not all of your firebase will fall back. You can protect them with demolishers on the flanks, but those guy might need to move up to get in range or capture an objective.

Other than that it seems pretty straightforward, decently strong list at the small size you are playing at.

let us know how he does with it.


Aristotle 2007/12/10 04:13:11 Subject: Guard 1500

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I'm trying to make a competive gaurd list for my friend. I tried to make it well rounded but I'm not sure how well it will fair.

Doctrines
Close order
Drop troops


HQ
Junior officer
4 plasma guns
80

Troops

Junior officer
4 plas
80

10 guardsmen
las
plas
95

10 guardsmen
las
plas
95

10 guardsmen
las
plas
95

Junior officer

4 plas
80

10 guardsmen
Plas
Las
95

10 guardsmen
Plas
Las
95

10 guardsmen
Plas
las
95

Leman russ Demolisher
HB
HB sponsons
EA
SL
TG
183

Leman russ Demolisher
HB
HB sponsons
EA
SL
TG
183

Leman russ Demolisher
HB
HB sponsons
EA
SL
TG
183

I'll add a Heroic Senior Officer with a master vox give each squad a Vox and a Veteran (points from dropping the Hellhound). after that If I've got the point's Ill add a Mortar to the HSO so he can still do damage from where ever he decides to hide (uhh I mean direct the battle from a viable tactical position)
Thanks for the help Shep If anyone has any other suggestions or the cost of the HSO and the mortar. Cheers

Aristotle wrote:Author Message
I'll add a Heroic Senior Officer with a master vox give each squad a Vox and a Veteran (points from dropping the Hellhound). after that If I've got the point's Ill add a Mortar to the HSO so he can still do damage from where ever he decides to hide (uhh I mean direct the battle from a viable tactical position)

These are both terrible ideas. Mortars are useless. They will kill an average of 0.08 marines per turn, which means that they will have to fire for 12-13 turns to make back their points. The vox network isn't needed. All of your officers already provide their leadership to every squad with a member within 12" of them. Each officer sits at the centre of a 2' diameter circle where their leadership can be used. The heroic senior officer is also 5 points more expensive than a junior officer with an Honorifica Imperialias.

Can I point out if your going to kill my ideas replace them with good ideas

Bring more autocannons instead of mortars.

Bring grenade launchers instead of plasmaguns.

Bring more lascannons.

Since you have armor, you can't really do an effective drop list--even if it's only a partial drop.

Infantry are good, tanks can be good but only with a bunch of them.

Otherwise all the anti-tank is going into your LRD's, and they will die.

Cheers I'll let him know what you guys come up with