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Alright, I am aware that Capital T Templates (as in flamers) ignore cover saves.

However, other templates seem a little more ambiguous. If models have cover between them and the firer they get cover saves. IE space marines vs plasma with a fence between them.
Now what about with a pie plate? The hole will be on the other side of the fence. Will space marines still get the benefit of cover? What about in the case of barrage?
And what does area terrain do to this situation?

Remember, the basic cover rules are that if the target is in cover or the firer's LOS crosses over cover then the defending models are considered in cover.

The individual weapon rules would have to specifically state that they behave differently for the weapon to have a distinct way of handling cover.


Template (Flamer) weapons state that they ignore cover saves.

Blast and ordnance weapons have no special rules for cover which means that it is determined exactly as normal (i.e. the placement of the blast has no importance on cover).

Barrage and ordnance barrage (indirect) weapons state that the center hole of the blast (after it scatters) is treated as the direction the model is hit from. So if there is any cover between the center hole of the blast and the model it is treated as being in cover, if there isn't the model isn't in cover. If a model is inside of terrain (like area terrain) then there will always be cover in between the center hole and itself unless the model is directly under the center hole.

Thank you,
It's pretty much what I figured, however these forums have been proving my assumptions wrong or a while now.

Thanks Yakface

Remember that in 40K (barring Apocalypse) only the flamer template is a template. The blast marker and large blast marker are not templates. They're markers.