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Hq X2

wierd boy warp heads

troops X3

27 shoota boyz
3 rokkits
1 nob w/ PK

troops X2

27 slugga boys
3 rokkits
1 nob w/ PK

troops X1

11 slugga boyz
1 trukk

1496 pnts

any comments welcome

Not very mobile, no fire base. It's not bad but for 1500 points you can do alot better. Do you have other models?

yes but I wanted to see if the warp heads could get my horde across the board quickly have you tried them?

Yes. Problem is, even 30 Orks can (and will) be decimated by rapid fire. You have no way to stop people from shooting you with tanks, driving up and piling out, getting uber assault units ready, dumping templates on you, etc.

To top it all off, you rarely get BOTH units to jump in the same turn.

So you feed one unit of 30 orks (yes, every army can kill 30 orks in a turn) then you feed another.

Bang bang, all of your army is dead or running away.

Your trukk unit rolls up, and gets rolled.

It isn't a balanced list, so...it has problems!

Stelek wrote:Yes. Problem is, even 30 Orks can (and will) be decimated by rapid fire. You have no way to stop people from shooting you with tanks, driving up and piling out, getting uber assault units ready, dumping templates on you, etc.

To top it all off, you rarely get BOTH units to jump in the same turn.

So you feed one unit of 30 orks (yes, every army can kill 30 orks in a turn) then you feed another.

Bang bang, all of your army is dead or running away.

Your trukk unit rolls up, and gets rolled.

It isn't a balanced list, so...it has problems!

so how would you balance it?

At 1500 points, I'd bring Lootas.

If you have them, Kannons (or Zzap Zzap guns). If not, Looted Wagons or Battlewagons. 2 units of K or LW; or 1 BW.

Bring 2 Trukk squads.

1 unit of 2 warbuggies or 2 deffkoptas will help.

Drop the warpheads. Take a HQ you have a model for. Warboss is fine.

Drop the basic squads down to 20. x1 is usually enough but x2 can be fine.

It is only 1500 points, but there are lots of things you'll face that will crush you if you use that list. Very few will you crush.

I haven't had great luck with warpheads... you have just as good a chance of deep striking your unit (now you can't assault)
as getting the waaggh... the +1 attack sounds nice, but I usually get it when I'm not in combat...


I would go with 2 units of 30 boyz, add a unit of 15 lootas, a looted wagon with big gun, 2 units of truk boyz
and either a warboss or mek w/ either KFF or SAG

the KFF can add durability for your loota and looted wagon, or the SAG adds another pie plate shot (and some entertainment value)
with 2 truks, put the warboss on a bike, with attack squig, PK and cybork, and your truk boyz have a real punch, and are a little less likely to run away right away

if you can, it's important to get the lootas in cover... if your opponent sees a unit or two wiped out in one round of shooting, he's going to throw a lot at them... which is a good thing... less firing at your boyz, who really are the bigger threat

if you really want to stick with hordes of orks (it's fun to see their faces) 3 units of 30 slugga boyz and 1 unit of 30 shootas(no nob)
gives you 12 rokkits and 3 PK nobs... you can trade your truk boyz for the looted wagon and the other unit of boyz for the lootas...

If you really want to try the wierdboy, just run one... the second won't do as much for you as a mek or warboss could

you have a lot that I like... stick with rokkits and PK nobs, huge mobs.... add some heavy firepower, and you will kick some butt

Welcome back to the boards B.

thanks for the suggestions guys the new revized list

HQ

warphead X1

Troops X3

27 shoota boyz
3 rokkits
1 nob w/ PK

Troops X2

11 slugga boyz
1 nob w/ PK

Elites X1

15 lootas

Fast attack X2

wartrakks w/ big shootas

Heavy support

3 kannons
+3 ammo runts
+2 crew

1499 pnts.

the 2 troops are in trucks

Round 1 generic eldar - Crushing victory

Round 2 elderich eldar - soundly defeted

Round 3 vanala marine - draw

all in all i would say the new ork dex is good I hate the fact that the choopa got nerfed but da boyz still work fine in CC. I had alot of fun and a good overall experance at the tourny I would like to thank B for the invite and ride and with out Mike leting me use some figs i would not have the loota squad that was my MVP in all three games. In retrospect the 30 ork mob size were huge in the victory point side of things.

Glad you had a good time. I enjoyed all three of my opponants also and hey for $10 it was worth it to play against three new opponents. I sure would like to see your squigoths on the table again. You could probably use them as wagons maybe.

How about looted wagons? it would explane the horrable armor value.... lol