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Hey folks, tring to make a kos ork list that is competive, I figure I'll run the truck boys in sets of two one assulty truck and one shooty truck behind a looted wagon vehical screen. the storm boys will jump in after the first wave of three trucks and the shooty trucks will zoom off to shoot at other targets or jump out and help the slugga boys if need be. The burna boyz get stuck in one of the three looted wagons with two meks trying hard to keep the convoy going. the Boss gets flank duty and the wartrakks stay hidden for objective grabbers? Thoughts and comments please.


HQ
Warboss on bike w/ PK, Attack sqigg, cybork body = 135pnt.

Troops
3X 11 slugga boyz
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole
1 truck w/ red piant, renforced ram, rokkit = 486pnts.

3X 10 shoota boyz
1 rokket boy
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole
1 truck w/ red piant, renforced ram, rokkit = 501pnts.

Heavy
X3 looted wagon , 'Ard case, big shoota, = 150 pnts.

Elite
4X Burna Boyz w/ 2 meks +1 grot oiler = 95 pnts.

Fast
12X storm boyz
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole = 184 pnts.

2 x Wartrakk with twin rokket track, piant = 90 pnts

Total 1641 points

Looks good. A Warboss on a bike is a must-have. I'd take a Warbike squadron to accompany him by dropping the Stormboyz.
A screen for the Trukks, formed by Looted Wagon and Wartrakks should work well.

Looks good, as for the Looted Wagons, i take it the Burna boys will go in one. what are the other 2 for besides
blocking line of sight?
you can take out 2 of em' and buy more storm boys, or as wuestenfux said (but keep the Storm boys),
you can buy 4 warbikes and have the Warboss ride with them.
with the low #. you might want to use one of the Trukks, or other vehicles to block line of sight of incomming fire
till its time to rush into combat.

but TJMO

*its way too early to think, must pour another cup of Joe*

drunkorc wrote:Looks good, as for the Looted Wagons, i take it the Burna boys will go in one. what are the other 2 for besides
blocking line of sight?
with the low #. you might want to use one of the Trukks, or other vehicles to block line of sight of incomming fire
till its time to rush into combat.

but TJMO

*its way too early to think, must pour another cup of Joe*

umm ya....

No, that made perfect sense. You could have 100 extra points without the 2 unused looted wagons. Add bikes, stormboys, or upgrade to 1 battle wagon, whatever, but those 2 LW really won't do much that I can see.

I see, so use the trucks full of eggs to block line of sight to the other trucks with eggs....?

I think you are a bit obsessed with LOS blocking. 112 point units riding 50 point vehicles aren't the type of thing that screams "protect me". Stormboys are a great fast threat when you are spamming bodies, and want a fast unit that can't be popped by a useless tankbusting heavy weapon, but when you've gone down the vehicle path, they just aren't as efficient as spamming armor 10 with max buggies and max trukks. I'm not against looted wagons, but I think they need a boomgun or an important passenger.

I appreciate that you are going outside of the box, and that you have spent time scratch building looted wagons, but IMO basic orks (even in trukks) just don't need a screen, they just need to be numerous.

Ya it's the box thing....about the time you know what they say about empty hands...

Having played against KOS orks in the new codex a few times, and seen them play a few other games, I don't think the screen is needed. In fact I think it could hurt you. If the looted vehicles get popped, they become terrain that the trukks can't drive through, since you can't drive through a wreck of a vehicle with front armor that is the same or higher than yours. So your protective wall could just become a protective barrier for your opponent. Imagine setting up your wall, losing first turn, and having half your exit path blocked while you hope not to roll 1s running through other terrain. Seems risky and not worth the points. Maybe put in a harder to kill screen, like a battlewagon or two.

HMMM... so renforced ram won't help agianst this?

As far as I can tell, no, though I did think about that. Reinforced ram just says that you can tank shock, and then says that the armor is counted as two higher for purposes of death or glory attacks. I don't think you would count driving through a wreck as a tank shock. The rule in the rulebook just says that a wreck is difficult terrain for a vehicle with higher frontal armor, and impassable terrain for others.

Update: I've desided to drop the burna boyz in favor of a bigger storm boyz unit.

HQ
Warboss on bike w/ PK, Attack sqigg, cybork body = 135pnt.

Troops
3X 11 slugga boyz
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole
1 truck w/ red piant, renforced ram, rokkit = 486pnts.

3X 10 shoota boyz
1 rokket boy
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole
1 truck w/ red piant, renforced ram, rokkit = 501pnts.

Heavy
X3 looted wagon , 'Ard case, big shoota, = 150 pnts.

Fast
19X storm boyz
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole = 280 pnts.

2 x Wartrakk with twin rokket track, piant = 90 pnts

Total 1642 points

I can preaty much field any thing so any thoughts....? short of all bikes that is... lol

Cool, I'll let you know how it runs this week end.

Your warboss cost is off by 15 points. Boss 60, bike 40, klaw 25, squig 15, cyboork 10, totals 150. Figured I'd let you know.

Thanks Teek good catch! now what should I drop?

HQ
Warboss on bike w/ PK, Attack sqigg = 140pnt.

Troops
3X 11 slugga boyz
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole
1 truck w/ red piant, renforced ram, rokkit = 486pnts.

3X 10 shoota boyz
1 rokket boy
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole
1 truck w/ red piant, renforced ram, rokkit = 501pnts.

Heavy
X3 looted wagon , 'Ard case, big shoota, = 150 pnts.

Fast
19X storm boyz
1 nob w/ PK and bosspole = 280 pnts.

2 x Wartrakk with twin rokket track, piant = 90 pnts

Total 1647 points

Lots of folk don't agree with me, but for the points I'd drop the squig, keep the cybork. 15 points for 1 attack is pricey, and losing an attack to survive one more turn means one more full round of attacks. Just my 2c though, your mileage may vary.

Congrats on taking overall at this weeks Mind Games tournament. Nice to see green again.

With the lack of terrian the looted wagons were instrumental in taking overall/best general. Mork & Gork smiled on the orks today.

First round:

Enemy: Kroot Mercenary

Deployment: After deployment he infiltrated his entire army then moved a d6 closer with most of his units. I deployed behind a large forest and thought I was safe. We rolled for first turn and I won...I thought, he then said he had a special rule allowing him to reroll first turn. He rerolled and won first turn.

1st turn: He moved up all units, Wow I thought cool After all I am orks right? Then he assaulted me right though the forest showing me another special rule that allowed Kroot to move through forest freely. Can you tell I know nothing about Kroot? 2 of his units hit my storm boyz on round 1 and I lost around 5 he lost much more on the counter attack. Another unit assaulted one of my looted tanks with no effect.

My turn: I moved two shoota boyz units into position to take out some snipers on a near by hill then moved three more tukks up to assault three of his kroot troop units. Moved Da Boss to counter assault the unit that had assaulted my looted tank and moved the trakks to grab objectives. The shoota boys dakkad the hell out of the snipers but it still took shots from my looted tanks and trakks to finish them off.

2nd turn: He moved and shot down 2 of my looted tanks finshed off my war boss and took down another 3 or 4 of my storm boyz, my trukk boyz at this point were still unmolested as my looted tank los blockers did there job.

My turn: The 3 trukks I had moved last round unloaded and a 4th truck near my storm boyz also unloaded all 4 mobs Waaaghed in this round to set up the charge I unloaded what dakka I could into each mob before I charged and with the Yell charged in with 44 or 33 attacks each. The kroots nearly disappeared at this point and victory was mine!

3rd turn: With combat every where all he could do was to try to take some orks down with him, he did very liitle and I killed and broke two of his squads.

My turn: It's all over but the crying. I killed the last of his squads.

4th turn: A special rule allowed him to bring another troop unit in, he shot and assaulted another trukk boy mob (they thought is was cool having little to do at this point any way) a falling back unit shot and destroyed one of my trakks denying me victory points on the primary objective, Damn!

TIME was called and since I had won, I opted not to take my last turn.