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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 18:26:52
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Alright everyone, feel free to tear it apart.
I'm not really looking to make this list some uber-tough, destroy-all-comers list, mostly it's just for fun. I am worried I'm spending too much on the CC-oriented Heroine & Celestians. Mostly they're taken for the Priest (who's able to provide me with Arco-Flaggelents) and, possibly Penitent Engines. If I did take him away, I'd probably make the Palatine & Celestians more shooty and replace the AFs with a Repentia squad and/or Death Cultists.
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Palatine Anya & Retinue
Palatine w/ Inferno Pistol, Power Weapon; Mantle Of
Ophelia; 1 Celestian Superior w/ Bolt Pistol & CCW;
1 Celestian w/ Flamer; 1 Celestian w/ Meltagun;
1 Bearer w/ Sacred Banner Of Order Militant;
1 Priest w/ Eviscerator
Frag Grenades
Immolator w/ Extra Armour
358
Elites
The Abject Ones
6 Arco-Flaggelants
210
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor & Retinue
Inquisitor w/ Bolter-Stake Combi, Word Of The
Emperor; 2 Hvy Bolter Servitors; 2 Acolytes w/ Bolter-
Stake Combi, Carapace Armour
140
Callidus Assassin
120
Troops
Sororitas Squad Alpha
6 Sisters; 2 Sisters w/ Storm Bolters; 1 Imagifer;
1 Vet Superior w/ Bolter, Book Of St. Lucius
159
Sororitas Squad Beta
6 Sisters; 1 Sister w/ Storm Bolter; 1 Sister w/ MM; 1
Imagifer; 1 Vet Superior w/ Bolter, Book Of St. Lucius
164
Redemptionist Mob
1 Demagogue w/ Power Weapon, Laspistol; 4 Fanatics
w/ Eviscerators; 2 Flamers; 13 Zealots
Exterminators
272
Fast Attack
Seraphim Squad
7 Seraphim; 2 Seraphim w/ Hand Flamers; 1 Veteran
Seraphim w/ Power Sword
247
Heavy Support
Retributor Squad
5 Sisters; 2 Sisters w/ Hvy Bolters; 2 Sisters w/ MMs;
1 Sister Superior
190
Exorcist w/ Extra Armour
140
Total 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 19:01:09
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Fixture of Dakka
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So, Sisters are a short-ranged shooting army.
CC they are not.
Speed bump they can.
Exorcist > Retributors unless you bring IG with lascannons.
Also Zealots are on the way out as far as being legal to play in tournaments, something to keep in mind.
Inquisitors are fluffy, but suck compared to sisters.
Also, imagifers on anything but seraphim (who get them for free) are a waste.
Stack up on the Sisters, and decide if you want to be foot OR mech. Don't mix the two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 19:07:58
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Stelek wrote:
Also Zealots are on the way out as far as being legal to play in tournaments, something to keep in mind.
This isn't meant to be a tourny army anyway...
I'll take your other suggestions under consideration, thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 19:12:16
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well alot of players don't start out intending to be a tourney player, and end up there. Since zealots are so-so anyway, figured I'd point that out so if you were building this list you could just get more Sisters instead.
Sisters are badass, btw. Add in some IG if you really want some redemptionist type fools running around for your army flavor. They'll be legal yet for a long time coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 19:47:46
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Executing Exarch
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I understand you don't want a 100% min-maxed list, but your "pure fluff" choices are excessive. Palatine instead of Canoness--why? Imagifers in all your squads--what for? Mixed heavy weapons in the Ret squad--huh?
And putting your meanest squad in the only transport is aksing for trouble. (So is not taking smoke launchers on a transport.)
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Wehrkind wrote:Sounds like a lot, but with a little practice I can do ~7-8 girls in 2-3 hours. Probably less if the cat and wife didn't want attention in that time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 20:09:35
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Wicked Warp Spider
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tegeus-Cromis wrote:I understand you don't want a 100% min-maxed list, but your "pure fluff" choices are excessive. Palatine instead of Canoness--why? Imagifers in all your squads--what for? Mixed heavy weapons in the Ret squad--huh?
I never said I was any good at making army lists...
How's this....
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Canoness Anya & Retinue
Canoness w/ Bolter, Power Weapon; Mantle Of
Ophelia; 1 Celestian Superior w/ Bolter;
1 Celestian w/ Hvy Bolter; 1 Celestian w/ Storm Bolter;
1 Bearer w/ Sacred Banner Of Order Militant;
6 Sisters
282
Elites
The Abject Ones
1 Repentia Mistress; 9 Sisters Repentia
210
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor & Retinue
Inquisitor w/ Bolter-Stake Combi, Auspex, Word Of The
Emperor; 2 Hvy Bolter Servitors; 1 Acolyte w/ Bolter
, Carapace Armour
107
Callidus Assassin
120
Troops
Sororitas Squad Alpha
7 Sisters; 1 Sister w/ Storm Bolter; 1 Sister w/ MM;
1 Vet Superior w/ Bolter, Book Of St. Lucius
144
Sororitas Squad Beta
7 Sisters; 1 Sister w/ Storm Bolter; 1 Sister w/ MM;
1 Vet Superior w/ Bolter, Book Of St. Lucius
144
Redemptionist Mob
1 Demagogue w/ Power Weapon, Laspistol; 4 Fanatics
w/ Eviscerators; 2 Flamers; 13 Zealots
Exterminators
272
Fast Attack
Seraphim Squad
7 Seraphim; 2 Seraphim w/ Hand Flamers; 1 Veteran
Seraphim w/ Power Sword
247
Dominion Squad
4 Sisters w/ Flamers, 1 Sister, 1 Veteran Superior
Immolator w/ Extra Armour, Dozer Blade, Smoke
Launchers
194
Heavy Support
Exorcist w/ Extra Armour
140
Exorcist w/ Extra Armour
140
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 20:13:25
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Fixture of Dakka
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Everytime a player puts Repentia in his army, an angel dies.
lol seriously repentia are horrible. dominions aren't far behind. right behind those are sisters with storm bolters...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 20:21:03
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Stelek wrote:Everytime a player puts Repentia in his army, an angel dies.
lol seriously repentia are horrible. dominions aren't far behind. right behind those are sisters with storm bolters...
Why's that?
I'm not disagreeing with you, as I've never played Sisters before and am just going off what minis I have. The problem I see with taking the Repentia out is that I'll be left with one CC unit (the Zealots....which I love and will allow me to use my Redemptionists)...unless I swap out the Repentia, OH Inq, & Dominions for a DH Inq and Deep Striking GK squad? With the upcoming Daemon Codex, that could be fairly effective......right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 20:39:00
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Fixture of Dakka
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Repentia are slow, T3, 4+ save....so they get shot to pieces.
They are also 1 attack I1 in close combat, so they get owned in CC too.
Last, Repentia are not Faithful. So, they suck even more.
Dominions give you two more weapon choices, but require a rhino. You can only fire 2 weapons out of the Rhino, so...
Might as well bring a regular Sisters (troops choice) unit and avoid paying the larger price for the Dominion Special weapons in the first place. 2 special weapons is usually sufficient. Most players run 2 melta, flamer/heavy flamer, or melta/heavy flamer. It really is enough.
You can run the Repentia as your Sister Superiors, since arming them with an eviscerator is pretty common practice.
You cannot make a decent Sisters list with real CC options in it. It's a short range shooty army, it's based almost entirely around that fact. So you shouldn't try, it doesn't work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 21:37:28
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Rampaging Chaos Russ Driver
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a fun thing to do is putting some dominions w/ lots of flamers in an immolator, and then run up to burninate the crap out of the enemy. of course for superior game ability take stelek's advice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/05 17:45:10
Subject: Re:2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Wicked Warp Spider
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After much tweaking....
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Canoness Anya & Retinue
Canoness w/ Bolter, Power Weapon; Mantle Of
Ophelia; 1 Celestian Superior w/ Bolter;
1 Celestian w/ Hvy Bolter; 1 Celestian w/ Storm Bolter;
1 Bearer w/ Sacred Banner Of Order Militant;
6 Sisters
282
Elites
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor & Retinue
Inquisitor w/ Bolter-Stake Combi, Auspex, Word Of The
Emperor; 2 Hvy Bolter Servitors; 2 Acolytes w/ Bolter-
Stake Combi, Carapace Armour
138
Callidus Assassin
120
Troops
Sororitas Squad Alpha
7 Sisters; 1 Sister w/ Hvy Flamer; 1 Sister w/ Flamer;
1 Vet Superior w/ Bolter, Book Of St. Lucius
147
Sororitas Squad Beta
7 Sisters; 2 Sisters w/ Meltaguns;
1 Vet Superior w/ Bolter, Book Of St. Lucius
149
Expurgator Squad
8 Stormtroopers; 2 Stormtroopers w/ Plasma Guns
120
Redemptionist Mob
1 Demagogue w/ Power Weapon, Laspistol; 4 Fanatics
w/ Eviscerators; 2 Flamers; 13 Zealots
Exterminators
272
Fast Attack
Seraphim Squad
7 Seraphim; 2 Seraphim w/ Hand Flamers; 1 Veteran
Seraphim w/ Power Sword
247
Seraphim Squad
7 Seraphim; 2 Seraphim w/ Hand Flamers; 1 Veteran
Seraphim w/ Power Sword
247
Heavy Support
Exorcist w/ Extra Armour
140
Exorcist w/ Extra Armour
140
Total 2002
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/05 18:10:22
Subject: 2000pt SoB/WH list - just for fun, mostly
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Fixture of Dakka
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So....2000 points is a limit, not a conceptual idea.
Seraphim don't need power weapons.
WH don't need stormtroopers. For *1*, read that again, ONE point more...you get a battle sister. There's just no comparison.
Your inquisitor has move-or-fire and move-and-fire weapons in his retinue. It should be either or, not both.
Your Canoness should never ever ever have a Celestian retinue.
Add battle sisters or elite celestians instead.
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