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I've looked through the new Marine codex but I have a couple questions. I'm going off memory because I don't have the book in front of me.

1) Command Squads and Honor Guard are retinues, correct? (With the exception of Marneus Calgar who can take 3 Honor Guard units).

2) Is there an option to take Terminator units as retinues or HQ units? I didin't see any options for this. But it seems odd that they would remove this, it would go against the fiction. Do Honor Guard or Command Squads have an option to equip terminator armor?


On a side note... why on earth would anyone take Honor Guard? They are extremely expensive to field, they only have 1 wound, and no invulnerable save. They do have a 2+ armor save. But that wont save them from AP1/2 weapons or power weapons. They are way over costed for a unit that will have all the enemy guns pointed at them.

~Logic

actually i dont think honour guard are retinues. they are trying to move away characters tied to specific units. you can take a unit of honour guard if you take a chapter master, but they are seperate units.

neither honour guard or command squads can have terminator armour. if you want your HQ to go around in a terminator squad youll have to buy one as a separate elites choice.

Nope, Honor Guard are not retinues.
Nope, no option to take termies as retinue or HQ.

About the retinue part, check out page 104 under the heading "mighty heroes". There is an interesting choice of words there.

padixon wrote:About the retinue part, check out page 104 under the heading "mighty heroes". There is an interesting choice of words there.

Can you be anymore relvealing? I don't have the book yet. I have to go to the store to read it

~Logic

it says they can lead retinues or something like that.
under honor guard and command squads it doesnt say anything about them being led by a character...they are just another unit.

"...Captains and Chapter Masters are the leaders of the Space Marine army, with formidable battle skills and a broad range of wargear options to further refine their deadliness. Each also has the option for a retinue unit - a Command Squad or Honor Guard respectively - to further increase the raw combat might of your army."

They are not just another unit, they are an extra unit, big difference. Command squads and Honour guard do not count towards the limits on your Force Organisation.

This can prove useful.