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Disney? I recently watched some of the final battles in their old hand-drawn not CGI movies (Alladin, Sleeping Beauty, etc.), and I gotta say; they were badass. These movies were probably the reason as to why Disney is around to this day. Nowadays all of their movies are in CGI and are directed to a younger audience (Chicken Little was probably one of the worst movies I've seen from Diznay). I'd only think of watching something from them if it looked appealing to an older audience as well as a younger audience.

Any thoughts?

I liked Chicken Little, mostly because of the subtle social satire and total absurdity. If the plot and execution is good enough, the animation becomes invisible. Not so with Beowulf, that movie even gave me a headache in 2D.

Chiggin Litl (hurrr), I found it quite childish and another aspect had me leaving the room; FURRAYS BLEHH. Diznay needs to make less movies these days without having animals as the main characters. Humie main characters please.

Heh, Beowulf. Not so good, yet not so bad either. The animation is really hard to see there. I enjoyed that, partly because of all the killing

Disney had 'good old days'?

Where was I?

Chrysaor686 wrote:Disney had 'good old days'?

Where was I?

That depends on how old you are I guess.

The good old days I would think would have been after the black and white shorts and the early animated features like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and Fantasia.

Or any time before High School Musical and Disney TV/Disney Radio.

Ahtman wrote:

Chrysaor686 wrote:Disney had 'good old days'?

Where was I?

That depends on how old you are I guess.

The good old days I would think would have been after the black and white shorts and the early animated features like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and Fantasia.

Or any time before High School Musical and Disney TV/Disney Radio.

It was kind of a joke.

I never grew up on Disney Movies, so I guess I lack the whole nostalgia factor.

My missus picked up Tarzan the other day and whilst I still enjoyed it, it didn't have the same...well, feel as the older disney films. Like they got lazy with animation before they dumped it for this new-fangled computer animated malarkey.

I quite enjoyed Chicken Little which I took my daughter to -- she was about 6 or 7 at the time.

Amusingly, the movie plot subverts the whole point of the Chicken Little story, which is that the sky isn't falling on his head so he should not run around causing a panic.

Unlike many Disney movies it doesn't offer subtext or plot elements attractive to an adult audience. Whatever.

When Pixar had such big successes with Toy Story and so on, Disney took the lesson that 3D was the secret to great animation. It isn't -- story telling and characters are the secret to great animation as with any other movie, play or book. They canned the entire staff of Lilo & Stitch, which was the last hand animated movie from Disney.

Personally I like the look of hand animation, however it is obvious that computer animation is much cheaper to do these days, so it will gradually take over. If they want, they can apply a 'cel aniamtion' filter to the CGI to make it look traditional. Look at the game Mirror's Edge from EA for an example of what I mean.

The important thing is that the skills of visualising and designing characters, and story boarding and key framing, are not lost.

Hotel for Dogs had a lot of dogs. It seemed to be the first "little girl chick flick" I've heard of. Almost the entire audience was girls aged 2-12. Genghis Connie gave the film two thumbs up, and both She Who Must Be Obeyed and I enjoyed it quite a bit. She did have to shuss me as I kept whispering "ok, now do they go down in a blaze of glory and machine the animal control goons?"

Oh yea, Disney...er... what?

What I miss are Warner Bros. cartoons that are unedited, complete with racist jokes and suicide gags.

And people being murder in cold blood by Yo samity sam. He taught me it's funny to shoot people down in bar fights, because thier ghost would come out and keep drinking beer.

ahh..the good ol' days... as in cartoons BEFORE "politically correct" became a vogue term.

yeah, the original transformers, original GI Joe, warner bros. stuff.. all of it was great.

now, its just sad how PC and sugar coated everything has to be...used to be GI Joe could just bust into Cobra's Lair, gunz a blazin, all john wayne... NOW, he has to politely knock on the door, and grovel before cobra, to beg him to just "please, be abit nicer"

cartoons have been used for moral messages for ages-- remember the crappy little "moral of the day" at the end of He-man

" Orko learnt that being scared etc etc".

Then there's the obvious ones-- Captain Planet etc etc, and I have vague memories of the C.O.P.S ( or something like that) having some horrific episode when they actually teamed up with their usual foes to battle against drug dealers.

[/facepalm]

We've come a long way from Fred Flintstone selling ciggies.

They took a break. The gorgeously two-dimensional "The Princess and the the Frog" will be released this Christmas.

Yay for animation fans!

I always loved to old Rescue Rangers Movies. Some of the best hand drawn stuff ever in my opinion!

I once had to go to a little girl/little boy Japanese school holidays double feature. This was all for the benefit of my daughter who was about 7 at the time.

The first film was some CGI animation about a bunch of cyberpunk stag beetles fighting in a forest with anime beam special effects and stuff for control of a woodland glade.

The second feature was "Love & Berry Magical something or other" another CGI production about two 14-year-old fashion model school girls getting into a magic world where they put on different clothes or rescue a fairy princess using style or something.

All in Japanese with no subtitles.