Tyranids ate squats?

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**olympia**

Is that the story anyways?

**Demogerg**

yes.
/thread

lol

**somecallmeJack**

yes, I believe that was the official reason for their demise.

**Cheese Elemental**

No, they still exist in the land of Nottinghamus with the Zoats and Doomrider, who gives everyone cocaine and bikes.

**Grim.Badger**

I thought the official line was that they never existed

**RustyKnight**

Grim.Badger wrote:I thought the official line was that they never existed

Who never existed?

**Grim.Badger**

RustyKnight wrote:Who never existed?

The squats, that's why they are never mentioned in the modern fluff as GW has just scrubbed them out of existance.

Edit:

Lexicanum wrote:Although Games Workshop claims that the Squats were removed from the game for reasons unrelated to the fact the Squats miniatures were not great sellers, it is still unlikely they would have been removed had they been more widely popular.

At first the disappearance of the Squat army from the game rules was explained by a background story describing that the race had been eaten by the Tyranids (in effect this still kept them as part of the background). The story went that the Squat race had been virtually destroyed, and the few remaining Homeworlds were annexed by the Imperium over the hundreds of years after the attacks. Only a few scattered and embittered remnants of Squats survive throughout the Imperium.

Currently however Games Workshop have taken a more Imperial approach to the question of Squats - the present stance is that the Squats never existed - GW has even edited older republished novels to remove all references of Squats from them. In other cases books have not been republished due to the stories featuring Squat characters or other "obsolete races".

The Demiurg are a revitalization of the "Space Dwarf" concept. According to Jervis Johnson they will probably never be a major race, rather remaining in the background.

Despite this, certain miniature companies have been producing Space Dwarf models, and some players have even converted the rules of Warhammer 40K to allow them to play. Despite how popular this trend has proven to be, the official ruling from Games Workshop is that only 40K races can be used in 40K.

**dcye**

I think you missed the joke there.

**Grim.Badger**

dcye wrote:I think you missed the joke there.

Yes, I was um... tired, yes tired, not thick at all

**Grimpost**

I always hated how they just wrote them out. Kill them off? fine. But to say they never existed in fluff when they are such a talked about army in player circles? Why bother writing them out. It sets a bad precedence.

Soon GW won't like the way a space marine chapter works and erase them completely. What then? Horus never rebelled? Horus never existed?

I for one refuse the turn a blind eye to this rampant editing of history and blatant racism!

SQUATS WERE REAL!

**Grim.Badger**

Yeah I don't see the point in deleting them; fair enough not updating and supporting them but times change and you may want them back again.
I suppose though that the fluff says that there are hundreds if not thousands of minor races, like the Tau and smaller, so there is plenty of chance to bring them back, albeit slightly altered

**Demogerg**

I dunno, GW writing <deleted from Imperial records> out of the fluff is in itself kinda fluffy, just like how they <deleted from Imperial records> or like the time they <deleted from Imperial records>

In any case, it all makes sense to Somebody....

**metallifan**

Demogerg wrote:I dunno, GW writing <deleted from Imperial records> out of the fluff is in itself kinda fluffy, just like how they <deleted from Imperial records> or like the time they <deleted from Imperial records>

In any case, it all makes sense to Somebody....

*Watches as GWquisition raids Demo's house and drags him off* ... ...QFT. Although the whole existance of Squats is now being denied by GW to the annoyance of many, I see it as a sort of comical approach. Whether GW sees the link between their behavior and that of the Imperium to the matter of abhumans, we can't say. I'd imagine they do to a certain extent, though unfortunately the common red/black/blue shirt isn't included in that range.

Personally I think they should just go back to being open about it though. Makes the fluff a bit deeper and doesn't make them seem on the surface like fluff butcherers. Now I better move before they find me too.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

The fluff will always be less consistent than the rules. Just for grins, the new Nid codex should give Preferred Enemy (Squats) to all their units

**metallifan**

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:The fluff will always be less consistent than the rules. Just for grins, the new Nid codex should give Preferred Enemy (Squats) to all their units

Or better yet, some new Squat-Tyranid hybrid... Like a fat gaunt with massive feet and huge sideburns

**phillosmaster**

Cheese Elemental wrote:No, they still exist in the land of Nottinghamus with the Zoats and Doomrider, who gives everyone cocaine and bikes.

Can I take a time out here to say that I miss the Doomrider. That guy looked like so much fun. I wanna be his buddy. Who doesn't like cocaine, bikes and flaming heads.

**kirsanth**

I thought Tyranids made gargoyles from the Squat DNA.

Their appearance seems to match. . . as no one ever sees either of them anymore.

**Grim.Badger**

kirsanth wrote:I thought Tyranids made gargoyles from the Squat DNA.

Their appearance seems to match. . . as no one ever sees either of them anymore.

That's more to do with gargoyles not being very good flyers :p (by that I mean they fall off their flying stands constantly, hence superglue being an optional upgrade for gargoyles)

**gardeth**

Didn't the squats get a brief cameo in the ork codex, where they talk about the orks taking the world Golgatha.

**Shelegelah**

Do you know what page of the Ork codex that was on? I skimmed through it but couldn't find it.

**sniperjolly**

also thats where the Fortress of Arrogance was lost & found. I suppose that the book Gunheads would be set on Golgatha then, but I dunno, never read it.