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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/23 10:29:35
Subject: What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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Hi there, I'm thinking of expanding my Khador force but not sure what the best things would be to get next. I have: Sorscha Juggernaut Destroyer Kodiak Beast-09 Iron Fang Pikeman Widowmakers Winterguard Mortar Crew Orin Midwinter Mechanik with 5 assistants Manhunter This totals 751 points. I think I might have too many Jacks for Sorscha to handle on her own? My thoughts are on getting next: Man-o-War armour Demolition Corps Man-o-War Shocktroopers Spriggan Man-o-War Kovnik 2nd Winterguard Mortar Crew Vlad as either a second caster or a replacement for Sorcha. Karchev the Terrible Behemoth Drago My aim is to get a decent 750 point force together for an upcoming game in two weeks. What would you do if you were me, with what I have now and what I should get next?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/09/23 11:47:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/23 11:46:40
Subject: What should I get next?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Sorscha is best with just two jacks, keep more focus to herself so you can use its nasty spells.
Have you tried other warcasters yet?
You can't go wrong with Man-O-Wars for some extra heavy infantry.
Likewise, you could probably use some more light infantry and solos so that you have more tactics beyond moving a bunch of heavies into enemy fire before charging.
Kossites + Yuri the Axe would be good to help keep enemy light units from trying to flank you.
Cavalry will work well with your force too, giving you some more mobility to deal with threats.
However, if you want to use those extra jacks look for the Khador jack marshalls, which are pretty good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/23 11:52:49
Subject: What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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I haven't tried any other caster apart from Sorcha she is the only one I own.
I'm torn between Vlad because I've heard he is good and Karchev because I want that model.
So you think I should get a Kovnik and some Shocktroopers and Yuri?
I'm not a fan of the Kossites, I'm more of a charge and smash kind of player.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/23 12:11:08
Subject: Re:What should I get next?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Kossites you have just for the threat value. It forces your enemy to bunch up their light infantry to the center making it easier for your mortar to do its thing.
However since you like the charge definitely get cavalry. Iron fang uhlans have quite a threat range and can also double as flankers or flank defense. A kovnik will help Marshall a Jack and allow you to split your heavies up more. In mk2 the basic juggy has mat 7 so you can run it without focus.
Man o wars are very heavy infantry and likely won't be able to keep up with your forward charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/23 12:23:32
Subject: What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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I don't have the book with the cavalry in it how many points are they? Just say "x" more/less than a Juggernaut so no laws are broken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/23 22:59:18
Subject: What should I get next?
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Pyre Troll
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i'd pick up the castors first, personally
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 00:03:18
Subject: What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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But which one? Vlad or Karchev and why do you think this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 00:48:23
Subject: What should I get next?
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Pyre Troll
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vlad first i suppose, since that would be easier on the wallet.
as for why a new caster, changing casters can drastically change how your army plays, so it can have a more immediate effect then just picking up another jack or somesuch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 04:13:24
Subject: What should I get next?
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Madrak Ironhide
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Vlad is a good all around caster and can support different types of armies.
Karchev pretty much demands 'Jacks and Mechanics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 07:12:17
Subject: What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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OK I think I'll get this then:
2nd Winterguard Mortar Crew & Vlad.
I've been reading around on the net and the Man-o-War Drakhun looks like a good thing to get next as well? I can't seem to find what model you are supposed to use when he is knocked off his horse though, which one is it?
Seems there is a lot of good stuff in the Legends rulebook which is the one I am missing. Not going to invest in that now Mk2 is around the corner though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 07:59:24
Subject: What should I get next?
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Pyre Troll
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keep in mind, they have the mk2 rules up to look at now, so you're able to check up the new rules
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 12:22:12
Subject: What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
The Middle
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I've downloaded the rules and the cards to read later on.
I've bought Vlad and some more pikemen, I'll see how it goes from there.
I think the Man-o-War Drakhun will be my next buy. Once I find out which model to use when he is on foot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 12:26:38
Subject: Re:What should I get next?
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Wraith
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I think the Man-o-War Drakhun will be my next buy. Once I find out which model to use when he is on foot.
That would be the dismounted Man-o-War Drakhun. Not the Man-o-War Kovnik.
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Bam, said the lady!
DR:70S+GM++B+I+Pw40k09/f++D++A(WTF)/hWD153R+++T(S)DM++++
Dakka, what is good in life?
To crush other websites,
See their user posts driven before you,
And hear the lamentation of the newbs.
-Frazzled-10/22/09 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 13:05:55
Subject: Re:What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
The Middle
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 I can't find the dismounted Drakhun model online anywhere. Am I being dim
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 14:01:25
Subject: What should I get next?
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Madrak Ironhide
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No.
Part of the model came with the box, the other part of it requires a regular manowar
to finish the model, if I recall correctly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 14:12:22
Subject: Re:What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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OK, thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/24 20:45:35
Subject: Re:What should I get next?
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Wraith
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Really? I thought it was a separate blister.
That has to be the oddest model decision made by PP.
I figured there were 2 boxes because of the price of the Mounted Drakhun.
Sorry for the uninformed post.
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Bam, said the lady!
DR:70S+GM++B+I+Pw40k09/f++D++A(WTF)/hWD153R+++T(S)DM++++
Dakka, what is good in life?
To crush other websites,
See their user posts driven before you,
And hear the lamentation of the newbs.
-Frazzled-10/22/09 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/27 19:32:59
Subject: What should I get next?
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Painting Within the Lines
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Rule of thumb, MKII rules wont significantly change your unit mix, except that jacks are (as they should be) a better choice moving forward. Vlad is a very good 'jack caster, and not bad at units, either. If I played with Khador, that's who I'd pick. BTW, get Drago as soon as you can. He and Vlad are one of the most potent combos in the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/27 20:15:08
Subject: What should I get next?
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Madrak Ironhide
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Since it looks like they're re-doing some of the sculpts, maybe Vlad will get a facelift.
Caine is scheduled for December.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/28 08:57:10
Subject: What should I get next?
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Mindless Spore Mine
The Middle
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Why are Drago and Vlad good together? I do like the Drago model but I'm a bit put off with the blowing up thing, I'm good at rolling ones when I don't need them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/28 13:56:28
Subject: What should I get next?
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Madrak Ironhide
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Drago has an Affinity with Vlad. Whenever a warjack has an affinity, they have a
warcaster specific bonus that you only get when you put that warjack in that warcaster's
battlegroup.
Drago's specific affinity is that you can choose not to make Unstable rolls. That means,
not only to you charge for free, but you can boost without fear of blowing the warjack
up. He has MAT 7, a Chain Attack and a Critical Effect, so boosting is always a nice
option to have.
Run Riot and Bloodbath are also both nice abilities to have, though situational.
Add Vlad's feat on top of Boundless Charge, and you have a MAT 7 warjack with
(at least) two initial attacks that has the potential to charge out to 13" on the feat
turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/29 01:48:24
Subject: Re:What should I get next?
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Painting Within the Lines
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Almost makes me want to play Khador....the Heathens.
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