Imperiums reaction to aliens

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**The Devourer**

So while working I got bored and started to wonder how the Imperium actualy stands on xenos. I mean we know how they react to dangerous aliens-Kill them all!! But is this the case for all aliens. I've read somewhere about the an Inquisitor classifying a species as dangerous (the tyranids iirc) and about inquisitors using alien technoloy and even trading with or keeping aliens to produce equipment.

So if an inquisitor classifies a race as dangerous does that mean that some are allowed. I know that no xenos would be allowed onto an imperial world and any of the playable races would be attacked on sight. But my main question are the presence of some aliens tollerated or is it the case of kill all other races or are there exceptions for important people- inquisitors, Rogue traders and other similar characters.

My main though was that there must be some races out there that don't want to destroy or absorb them into their society. If a race that just wanted to leave others to their own business was traveling through imperial space how would they react?

**Horst**

well, the imperium doesn't really explore beyond the bounds of the astronomican, so it can't really go searching for new life that far away.

All the races in the immediate vicinity are known to them, and they are all enemies of man.

If they DID discover a new race, I think it would be more classified along the lines of "kill now" or "kill later"... like if they find a peaceful race of carebears, they will save the cleansing of their world until AFTER they deal with the orks/nids/eldar/necrons/tau that are much bigger threats. but rest assured, all xenos will be cleansed in time.

**Deathbot**

They will try and exterminate any xenos they find. Remember that in the Tau's backstory, the Imperium had their planet scheduled for cleansing and colonization. It was only the barest of luck (in the form of a warp storm) that saved them.

**Black Antelope**

Not quite true deathbot
Thats the OFFICAL stance of the Imperium, but plenty of people get on with xenos.
*Various Inquisitors work with the Eldar
*Jokero seemed to be tolerated, and sold stuff to the Imperials (before they disappeared from the fluff)
*Squats (pre-macguffin) and kroot sometimes worked with various Imperial armies.

**metallifan**

Don't forget the Calgarmarines and the Eldar are commonly 'on-again, off-again' buddies too.

They were also nice and cuddly with the Tau near the end of Firewarrior (Book/Game)

Come to think of it, the Ultramarines have racked up a few counts of Xenos love...

IT'S HERESY!

**Deathbot**

Black Antelope wrote:Not quite true deathbot
Thats the OFFICAL stance of the Imperium, but plenty of people get on with xenos.
*Various Inquisitors work with the Eldar
*Jokero seemed to be tolerated, and sold stuff to the Imperials (before they disappeared from the fluff)
*Squats (pre-macguffin) and kroot sometimes worked with various Imperial armies.

Squats weren't xenos. they were abhumans descended from ancient human colonists.

And as to the rest... HERESY!!! You must be cleansed in the name of the Emprah!!!

**Cheese Elemental**

Most humans tolerate non-hostile aliens. Some Orks and Kroot serve as mercenaries, and I reckon that the Gue'vasa get on with the Tau just fine.

**1hadhq**

Acceptable solution for xenos encouters:

some may live, to have their existence "discontinued" later.

Tresspassing imperial space isnt allowed except the xenos offers itself for target practice of the imperial navy.

But in general, rogue traders / inquisitors / backwater worlds may trade or interact with xenos.
Rogue traders may hide their relationship as some forgotten colonies may do.
The inquisition is powerful enough to do as they please, until another inquisitior calls this heresy and acts upon it.

And Gue'vesa doesnt exist

**thesilverback**

The Imperium's Official Response is kill xeno on sight.

The Truth is as long as the xeno serve a useful purpose let them serve us when they aren't of any use any more then terminate them.

**The Devourer**

Jokero were partly what I was thinking about when I started this thread but if they've been removed from the fluff the imperial attitude to aliens makes a bit more sense.

I've read about some space marines / IG working with eldar but im suprised that it was the ultramarines.

**phantommaster**

The Culexus Assassins are Chaos bred. They work for the Inquisitors.

**Orkeosaurus**

Chaos bred? Aren't they using Necron genes?

**1hadhq**

Necrontyr genes? are there any left?

ISnt it a pariah gene mutation?

**lemon detective**

I imagine the Imperium would just go, for the most part,

"GAAAAAGH!! WTF is that?!"
"Kill it! Kill it with fire!"

But then they're occasionally like

"You may live.... for now.... i believe you to be useful...."

**Orkeosaurus**

1hadhq wrote:Necrontyr genes? are there any left?

I meant in the sense that it was engineered by them.

ISnt it a pariah gene mutation?

I thought it was the Necron answer to the Warp. Maybe they just took advantage of it though, I'm not sure.

**Emperors Faithful**

Of course, we're only talking of 'sentient' aliens here. If the carebears were no smarter than the average bear, I don't think the Imperium would really mind. They might treat them as livestock and have a fur industry ready to go or something. *)

But Horst summed it up pretty well with the 'Kill now' or 'Kill later' stance.

**The Devourer**

The Culexus Assassins are Chaos bred.

Really I have never heard anything about them being not human? I know some Death Cult assasins worship khorne but i thougt the rest were
ok(ish).

Aren't they using Necron genes?

Necrons have genes? I thought all that was left were robots, and that pariahs were other species that had been necronized to fight against psykers.

**Emperors Faithful**

I thought the Culexus Assasins were blanks?
(Anti-Psykers)

They're the exact opposite of Chaos.

**Sanchez01**

metallifan wrote:

IT'S HERESY!

Word...

Calexus are souless humans that are used to kill the psyker

**Orkeosaurus**

The Devourer wrote:Necrons have genes?

Orkeosaurus wrote:I meant in the sense that it was engineered by them.

**penut the butter**

Well it says that during the age of technology IIRC, that humans had worked out peace with extraterrestrials but when the warp storms came and humanity was turned into stinky cave men with guns the Xenos became dictators.
But then the emperor came and brought humanity together and ordered that aliens be wiped out and humanity become true masters of the galaxy.
So I'm thinking that all aliens would be exterminated. Some more evidence is that when the tau were still in a prehistory age and the imperium discovered them they ordered the world to be purged of the species.

**Exarch_Nektel**

Horst wrote:well, the imperium doesn't really explore beyond the bounds of the astronomican, so it can't really go searching for new life that far away.

All the races in the immediate vicinity are known to them, and they are all enemies of man.

If they DID discover a new race, I think it would be more classified along the lines of "kill now" or "kill later"... like if they find a peaceful race of carebears, they will save the cleansing of their world until AFTER they deal with the orks/nids/eldar/necrons/tau that are much bigger threats. but rest assured, all xenos will be cleansed in time.

These days it's pretty much kill now. Tau were kill later, and you can see what happened from that.

The Imperium doesn't really like any xenos, but humans in general dont have a problem with some.

**penut the butter**

Black Antelope wrote:Not quite true deathbot
Thats the OFFICAL stance of the Imperium, but plenty of people get on with xenos.
*Various Inquisitors work with the Eldar
*Squats (pre-macguffin) and kroot sometimes worked with various Imperial armies.

Usually the Imperium help other races out of mutaul needs and survival like when Chaos or nids attack.
And with the kroot,they are mercenaries fighting for the highest bidder or who will offer them the most genetic stock.

**phantommaster**

Culexus assassins are bred on a Chaos world, some go off doing otherthings but most decide to work for the Inquisitors. It tells you in the Necron codex. It was something about a Farseer wanting to destroy the Culexus temple on the Chaos world, and there was another story in another codex as well.

The 'necron' assassin you lot are thinking of is the Callidus assassin, with the C'tan phase sword.

Oh, and just a little storyline, if it weren't for the Inquisition, there would be no such thing as the Eldar. The Inquisition protect them from the more anti-Eldar space marines in return for use of the webways etc.

**Orkeosaurus**

No, we're not thinking of the Callidus, although she does use a Necron weapon.

All Culexus assassins are blanks, possessing the Pariah Gene. We're just not sure whether the Pariah Gene was created by the Necrons or whether it is simply taken advantage of by the Necrons when they create their Pariahs.

**1hadhq**

phantommaster wrote:Culexus assassins are bred on a Chaos world, some go off doing otherthings but most decide to work for the Inquisitors. It tells you in the Necron codex. It was something about a Farseer wanting to destroy the Culexus temple on the Chaos world, and there was another story in another codex as well.

Could you be more specific about "chaos" ?
Cant find at necron dex page 8/9 anything supporting any chaos relation.
Isnt it described as a singular planet on its way to the center of the galaxy?

Orkeosaurus wrote:

All Culexus assassins are blanks, possessing the Pariah Gene. We're just not sure whether the Pariah Gene was created by the Necrons or whether it is simply taken advantage of by the Necrons when they create their Pariahs.

Necron codex page 31 'Mephet-ran' and his collection of pariahs, maybe?
I doubt the pariah gene is created, the old ones seem to missed to invest into mankind and this could be a hint on what evolution
may invent if left alone.

**Orkeosaurus**

I don't own a Necron codex, so I couldn't tell you anything about Mephet-ran and his Pariahs. What's the deal with them?

**1hadhq**

Orkeosaurus wrote:I don't own a Necron codex, so I couldn't tell you anything about Mephet-ran and his Pariahs. What's the deal with them?

Shouldnt use the eldar name, sorry. Maybe 'deceiver' is better?

Page 31 has a line about his actual work that says he's gathering pariahs with help of members of the mechanicum.

Doesnt sound like C'tan/necrons did anything to create the pariah-gene, but instead try to benefit from it.

**Orkeosaurus**

Makes me wonder who built the nullifying monoliths on Cadia.

**Ketara**

The Necrons have their 'great work', in which they intended to seal off the universe from the warp forever. The pylons on Cadia are generally seen as a precursor to this, as they are what stabilises, and protects the Cadian gate.
Pariahs are created from humans with the rare, 'untouchable/blank' gene, which means the human in question is immune to the warp, and it creates a psychic void around them in which the warp is nullified. If you gather more than 1 'blank' together, the psycic null field around them grows larger.

For example, say that psychic blank field is usually one metre in all directions around an untouchable. If you get two blanks together, this would extend to three metres. Get three, and it would extend to five. It's a cumulative effect. Theoretically, if you got enough together, you could isolate a system with them.

However, a null field does have limits. Enough sheer psychic power is capable of overhwleming one, as is shown in Dan Abnetts Eisenhorn series with the Titan.
Theoretically, the more blanks there were, the harder it would be to overwhelm the field though.

As to the Culexus, I'll read out some bits from Codex:Assassins.

First and foremost, a Culexus Assassin is chosen because he possesses a very rare genetic defect.....the Culexus Assassin is special because they have, or appear to have, no presence in the Warp, there is just a void. They are, to all intents and purposes, soulless.....This extremely rare defect occurs for no known reason in less than one in a billion individuals. ....For a short period of time, Untouchables were transported back to Terra aboard Black Ships with other untamed psykers. Once on Earth they would be handed over for experimentation by the Biologis Departmentorium of the Adeptus Mechnaicus. It wasn't long before a large number of Untouchables were languishing in the cells at the experimental Laboratoriums.......Such a large number of Untouchables began to cast a shadow in the warp, blocking out the Astronomican, the vital beacon used to guide spaceships to far reaches of the Imperium. This was the first disturbing revelation of their potency....'