Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I know this is going into way OTT areas but do you think it could happen. I came up with this idea just bouncing it around as a way to make some more unique models in my GK army and have been going over the idea in defense and against it. The way I see it...

Reasons for...
-There is precedence with the inquisition sending members of the Exorcists to the Death Watch. Granted the Exorcists are a more standardized chapter, they do have a very non-standard creation process that quite a few people would frown upon.
-GK's while being highly specialized at fighting Daemons would run into members of the other races in their line of duty. Be it, just happening across some other races, all the way to, being sent in by an Inquisitor on a joint inquisitorial investigation to take out a daemon possessed Xenos leader.

Reasons against...
-Due to the task force style set up of the GK's they would not be that ideal for them to send someone to the Death Watch to get the xenos hunting training and then come back and spread it through the chapter. The DW vet would not have near as much contact with alot of brothers to pass on the things he learned.
-They are highly specialized to begin with.

Thoughts? Ideas?

I sse it as a slim possibility.
IIRC, Deathwatch consist from volunteers from Codex adhering chapters. Grey Knights already serve the Inquisition by being their own pet chapter, so there would be no real reason for them to be there other than to lead because of their expeience with heretics.

Also the politics of the different ordos (can you say paranoid) would likely mean the grey knight would not even be trusted.

Id say no.

But dont let that stop you.

In space hulk blood angels recover from losing 900 marines (the previous space hulk they boarded) in a few hundred years.

I'd say that couldnt happen either.

I could imagine it say if the high Ordo daemon guys wanted to stick their noses in a Ordo Xenos backyard.. Sending a grey knight would be a very unsubtle but insulting way to do it.

So go for it.

A very valid point but why then would the Ordo Malleus send off members of the Exorcists chapter to the Death Watch? For that matter If the Exorcists have had at least 2 members mentioned as members of Death Watch, then what about the Red Hunters.

I'd have to incline towards a firm NO.

You could find a reason that could stick, of course, but you could only use that excuse only so often

In the case of a Daemon worshipping Xenos faction, such as Chaos Eldar, a strike team would benefit from both the experience of both the Ordo Xenos and the Ordo Malleus.

I'd say a squad of GK can be integrated into a Deathwatch Kill squad a lot easier than some Deathwatch Veterans into a GK Company

Deathwatch aren't taken from all chapters, only from those that have sworn oaths to contribute marines. Lexicanum lists the chapters known to contribute Deathwatch marines as: Black Consuls, Black Templars, Blood Angels, Blood Ravens, Crimson Fists, Death Spectres, Exorcists, Imperial Fists, Lamenters, Mantis Warriors, Raven Guard, Red Talons, Revilers, Salamanders, Scythes of the Emperor, Space Wolves, Ultramarines, and White Scars.
Most likely the Grey Knights would consider fighting daemons more important than seconding their marines to fight aliens. Also notice that not all the Chapters that contribute are codex (e.g. the Space Wolves).

Shaman wrote:In space hulk blood angels recover from losing 900 marines (the previous space hulk they boarded) in a few hundred years.

I'd say that couldnt happen either.

Wait how did they lose 900 marines and survive the codex says that a chapter should be 1000 marines strong. I'm not sure if the Blood Angels have more or its one of those "in times of war you can have more marines." The crimson fists lost 500 marines and their fortress monastary and contemplated disbanning. The crimson fists are still under 1000 marines and the loss happened near the begining of the milliena....
I'm obviously playing the unmanly marines

DruidODurham wrote:Deathwatch aren't taken from all chapters, only from those that have sworn oaths to contribute marines. Lexicanum lists the chapters known to contribute Deathwatch marines as: Black Consuls, Black Templars, Blood Angels, Blood Ravens, Crimson Fists, Death Spectres, Exorcists, Imperial Fists, Lamenters, Mantis Warriors, Raven Guard, Red Talons, Revilers, Salamanders, Scythes of the Emperor, Space Wolves, Ultramarines, and White Scars.
Most likely the Grey Knights would consider fighting daemons more important than seconding their marines to fight aliens. Also notice that all the Chapters that contribute aren't codex (e.g. the Space Wolves).

Umm... what?

Imperial Fists... Ultramarines

Sorry, posting on the cell phone can lead to editing errors. Fixed it.

The Grey Knights are a resource created with the sole intention of combating the daemonic and are so precious to the Imperium that they cannot be wasted against conventional enemies so I would say definitely not.

The popularity of Inquisitor is what caused Games Workshop to expand the presence of the Inquisition forces within Warhammer 40,000 and as a result we see the Grey Knights a lot more often but their background has always been pretty consistent on the fact that they are a Chapter whose presence is largely known to only a few members of the Ordo Malleus so again it makes it that much more unlikely that they would appear as Deathwatch.

It's kinda counter-productive anyway, the whole point of the Deathwatch is that they aren't a secret organisation and can be used far more readily than the daemon hunting Grey Knights to add a bit more flavour.

DruidODurham wrote:Also notice that not all the Chapters that contribute are codex (e.g. the Space Wolves).

Sorry, I saw in a PDF for Deathwatch say, and I quote, "Deathwatch members are volunteers from Space Marine Chapters that rigidly adhere to the Codex Astartes." Could be different, but oh well.

Joetaco wrote:

Shaman wrote:In space hulk blood angels recover from losing 900 marines (the previous space hulk they boarded) in a few hundred years.

I'd say that couldnt happen either.

Wait how did they lose 900 marines and survive the codex says that a chapter should be 1000 marines strong. I'm not sure if the Blood Angels have more or its one of those "in times of war you can have more marines." The crimson fists lost 500 marines and their fortress monastary and contemplated disbanning. The crimson fists are still under 1000 marines and the loss happened near the begining of the milliena....
I'm obviously playing the unmanly marines

I'm not sure if scouts are counted in the 1000 actually, I've seen some sources that suggest a lot of chapters are slightly over if they are (but I've always seen the 1k thing as having a bit of wiggle room, constant combat means you're not going to be able to rigidly maintain it) which might give them a hint of buffer. I also think they took a few donations of marines and/or scouts from their second founding chapters. A first founding chapter isn't going to get disbanded except in the most dire of circumstances and I dimly recall that they were considering it.

Also, Baal was still intact. The Crimson Fist homeworld was almost wiped out; that would do a lot to limit the number of recruits they could actually get hold of.

and make all the other marines jealous of how much more special he is compared to them nah the inquisitors don't like infighting lol got to make the marines feel like they are the best of the best not 2nd string