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Doing a tourney in 10 days, never played warmachine before. Played warhammer and I have finally been tempted into it. After studying up a little on battlecollege, I've come up with a list I think is ok, not sure as I've never played a game!

Anyway, here it is:


20 pts:

Iron Lych Asphyxious
Skarlock - 2

Deathripper - 4
Deathripper - 4
Mechanithralls x10 - 5
Bane Thralls x10 - 8
Pistol Wraith - 3

Mission is simple, move forward with deathripper/raiders and use the arcnode to channel debuffs on anything I'm ready to assault with the raiders
The mechanithralls are there to be damage soakers, or to get in with the raiders and cause some damage. I know there's know large warjack,
Hoping the Brutes can make up for it.

35 pts:

Iron Lych Asphyxious
Skarlock - 2

Deathripper - 4
Deathripper - 4
Mechanithralls x10 - 5
Bane Thralls x10 - 8
Pistol Wraith - 3
Pistol Wraith - 3
Slayer - 6
Slayer - 6



same mission as before, just with a little extra punch behind it.


50 pts:

Iron Lych Asphyxious
Skarlock - 2

Deathripper - 4
Deathripper - 4
Mechanithralls x10 - 5
Bane Thralls x10 - 8
Pistol Wraith - 3
Pistol Wraith - 3
Slayer - 6
Slayer - 6
Necrosurgeon - 2
Necrosurgeon - 2
Reaper - 7
Bane Lord Tartarus



Hopefully, this isn't a complete waste of list. I wanted to get the skarlock in earlier, but this point made sense. The pistol wraiths, added
necrosurgeon and slayer should give enough extra oomph.

Anyway, let me know if this is a good way to go, or a complete waste of time and I should scratch it.



EDIT: Adjusted it a bit
EDIT EDIT: Adjusted again

I would make room for the skarlock at all points levels they are in many ways an auto include IMHO.

I like the lists but the Satyxis with asphy lack synergy, they are brutal with Skarre as she bassically allows them to double their damage to the warcaster through tapping their jacks.

I would suggest switching out the satyxis with Bane thralls and Banelord tartarus as he has better synergy with the melee brutality of Asphy. The rest looks good.

First list does not even use all of asphyxious jackpoints. I also think he needs 2 nodes. I have to agree with the poster above that dropping the satyxis and adding a min banethralls is usefull. the satyxis could get back in in higher points if you also add a seawitch.
The banes will be the heavy hitters. your list is lacking those... this change will fill in the jackpoints and keep you on the mark with points.

for 35 I would consider expanding the list with satyxis if you still want them, although a strong point can be made again the bane thralls again. maxing that unit and getting tartarus will make it a quite formidable unit without fear of asphyxious feat. points left could go to stitchthralls, (3 for 1 point) they are very good filler IMHO...

The 50 point list is a toss up. I like what youhave, but again the satyxis. you must really like the models

you can try them, but keep the 35 points list and add them and a seawitch. this way you have a solid core in the army and some nice flankers to use (def 16 on range is very good...)

hope the advice helps...

Never considered the bane thralls...

I just like the ability of the satyxis, I know about the combo with skarre, and I guess I can set that aside for another list. All I know is I like melee, and wanted to build something around such. I'll work on adjusting them again.

Well if you want combat then the thralls are better IMHO... they are also better capable at taking down heavies. The mechthralls only get so far against real heavies and then you need something stronger. The darkshroud and weaponmaster make for a lot of armour busting abilities.

If you want to combine use on the banes then maybe consider knights instead of bane thralls. they have a reach weapon and weaponmaster. they are effectively -2 strength on a heavy, but with scything touch and parasite on the target that problem is mitigated.

Also consider getting denny as a caster. she is easier to get the hang off in the first battles IMHO. Gaspy is a very cool caster though...

Your 20 point list is only 16 points, Asphyxious gives six extra points to spend on warjacks in his battlegroup. Brute Thralls are a waste, Mechanithralls can handle armour, especially with Scything Touch cast on them (P+S 17). Take a Necrosurgeon and a heavy warjack, I've put in a Reaper because it's in your 35 point list (be sure to buy the plastic one and some magnets).

20 pts:

Iron Lich Asphyxious (6 warjack points)
Deathripper - 4
Reaper - 7
Satyxis Raiders x10 - 8
Mechanithralls x10 - 5
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls - 2

Swapping Satyxis Raiders for Bane thralls is a legitimate choice as would be taking another heavy, perhaps a Corruptor or a Slayer (and a Warwitch Siren) and fielding Goreshade the Bastard instead of Asphixious.

I updated the list again, let me know what you think.

The 20 pointer looks ok, the rest of 'em are spam city and there are a going to be a lot of models sat on the shelf after this tournament.

You don't need two Necrosurgeons if you only have ten Mechanithralls, For another point you could be fielding another six Mechanithralls (from turn one) instead. Conversely the 20 and 35 point lists need a Necrosurgeon.

Scarlock is a waste in 20 points it will only be casting (with certainty) Scything Touch, which is an upkeep spell.

Paired Pistol Wraiths are so MkI.

George Spiggott wrote:The 20 pointer looks ok, the rest of 'em are spam city and there are a going to be a lot of models sat on the shelf after this tournament.

You don't need two Necrosurgeons if you only have ten Mechanithralls, For another point you could be fielding another six Mechanithralls (from turn one) instead. Conversely the 20 and 35 point lists need a Necrosurgeon.

Scarlock is a waste in 20 points it will only be casting (with certainty) Scything Touch, which is an upkeep spell.

Paired Pistol Wraiths are so MkI.

What would you recommend for 35 and 50 that would make them a llittle more synergetic? I'm going to be taking a shopping list over to my FLGS tomorrow, so any help would be great!

First of all, apologies for the abrupt tone of my last post (Drinking + Posting = Fail).

Bile Thralls (minimum unit 5) and a Warwitch Siren (2) are excellent models that you will get use of and could be put into those lists to reduce the repetition of models. I'd suggest varying arc nodes as well but since they come in pairs that may not be practical. You could always leave the lower jaw off one of the Deathrippers and convert it into a Defiler by adding a gun barrel.

Warwitch Siren's card

Iron Lich Asphyxious -6
Deathripper 4
Reaper 7
Slayer 6
Bane Thralls (Leader and 9 Grunts) 8
Bile Thralls (Leader and 5 Grunts) 5
Mechanithralls (Leader and 9 Grunts) 5
Necrosurgeon & 3 Stitch Thralls 2
Warwitch Siren 2
Scarlock Thrall 2

35/35

hmmm, she did not come in my deck! Guess it's off to ebay to get it....

She's a new MkII model, she never had a MkI card to replace.