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1. Regarding gunmages, it is possible to have snipe on a gunmage unit and for them to use their "snipe" ability to stack effects? As the effects have the same name, is this alowed?

2. Regarding knockdown and orders, as knocked down models can't give orders or receive orders, and orders must be given at the start of the activation - since models give up their action/movement to stand up also at the start of the activation, is it possible to stand and issue and order (which doesn't require both movement and activation) such as shield wall or covering fire? It looks like this is possible as it happens before movement.

Any clarifications would be appreciated.

1. I had the same thing come up with Stormfall Archers and the answer was that because the abilities have the same names they don't stack.

2. I'm not 100%, but I believe you can recieve orders when forfeiting to stand up (obviously not orders like charge that require you have movement and actions)

No the knocked down models in the unit don't get the orders. They can still use thier normal action they have left over to do stuff though. Unless the unit ran or charged, then they can only make a base move.

Edit: I misread the question, I think your going to have to take this to the PP forums. That is an odd qestion and something I've never had come up.

1. Same name do not stack. Same effect but different name do stack.

To use my Cryx as an example, I cast Parasite on a jack to lower its ARM-3, then pop Feat to lower it by another -2.
Then I can charge with Bane Thralls and Dark Shroud lowers it by another -2.
End result is -7 ARM.

2. I think you can stand and give a charge order, but it gets fuzzy. Without a book handy, I am not sure.


If you order a charge, models in the unit must run or charge. You can choose to run 0".

If you have given up part of your activation to stand, you cannot run, because to run you have to give up your action, which you don't have because you stood up.

Right. So if an Iron Fang unit is KD, they can give up their action to stand, and the SGT can give a shieldwall order because it happens at "start of turn" i.e. before movmement?

You cannot stand up and charge as in order to charge model must have both action and normal movement (page 46 on the preview document).