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So I'm primarily a 40k player, but I've been looking at Necromunda for some time, and I've decided to go ahead and give it a try. I've been browsing the GW website (which tells you virtually nothing about the game itself, to my delight) and I like the aesthetics of the Scavvy gang, but besides that know very little about the game.

Besides buying the rulebook, what would you all recommend I do/read/see to learn more about the game?

And just for reference, nobody else I know plays... so if I got into it, I'd have to recruit one or two friends as well.

Well for starters, dont buy the rulebook

In this digital age, if you can take your laptop with you to where you game, you can use THIS rulebook, from the GW website for freeeee!

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1330042_Necromunda_Rulebook.pdf

They have all their rules and little sub rules and everything else for you. Word to the wise though, some of the extras don't mesh with newer rules on account of being really old

If you buy the new rulebook you pay 25 squids or however much in dollars for something freely accessible.

And helpful starting tip, get a shiteload of juves, cos gangers die way to easily. Ofc if your doing scavvies its not so much of a problem.

40 clams over here.

Yeah if it's available in .pdf format for free I'll take that instead. I've got a binding machine here at the office, and some nice glossy covers, I'll just use that.

And yeah, one of the things that draws me to Scavvies is the idea that if your gangers die over the course of a campaign, they're DEAD, so I want lots of easily replaceable troops. Or whatever they're referred to as in Necromunda (is "ganger" the general term?).

Another thing that draws me to Scavvies is that they remind me quite a lot of Collectors, one of my favorite "factions" in Planescape: Torment. If you've ever played it, you know what I'm talking about.

I havent

A good benefit for Scavvies is the swarm of extras you can easily get with them. They have access to plague zombies, which dont die however hard you try to kill them, ghouls, which are seriously painful when you haven't got nice open lanes of fire, and scavvy dogs, which aren't that special, but they're cheap and you can have three per gang*!

Scavvy is a bad choice if you want to outshoot someone. Most of their weapons are weak, and relatively short ranged, which is a drawback. But they do have the benefit of having scalies, which have some potentially devastating harpoon guns!

* I think

The normal gangs in the main rule book are a good starting point for at least a few games anyway. If you are just getting into Necromunda I'd stick well clear of the Outlanders (Scavvies, Redemptionists, Spyrers, Ratskins and I'll throw the Enforcers into this category too). The rules for these guys can be quite different and in some cases broken (one way or the other).

I'd also suggest having a look at the Eastern Fringes and Warseer's Necromunda sections.

Good luck getting others involved and enjoy its a brilliant game.

Peter

Forgot to say don't buy the rule book....just google search Necromunda Community Edition. Nothing to do with me but blimey I like it.

I bought the rulebook dig it all age or not

They are not expensive on ebay and imho a lot easier to use. It will cost as much in ink and hassle to print off the computer.
Also would recommend the source book for campaign info.

I agree with peter about Outlanders.
Also I agree with what others have said elsewhere about the change in rules regarding gangs having limited weapons choices. I may be wrong but there seems little compensation and insufficient diffrence between gangs to warrant it.

good luck and you are guarranteed to have fun!

I'm a big advocate of having a hard copy of rulebooks etc. Yes it's free online but you can pick the book up for cheap on eBay. Try and find a copy of Outlanders too. Some of the gang rules have been developed since publication (new rules for scavvies etc. and Enforcers) but there's still loads of great stuff in there like the dangerous conditions table and what happens when a ganger gets a higher leadership than the leader (my personal favourite).

Can anyone else confirm how much of Outlanders is in the Underhive book?

Hunterpest - None of it.....actually off the top of my head maybe some stuff to do with gang leadership but that's about it. Outlanders is great and some of it is here http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=79749 The best bit of Outlanders for me is the arbitrator campaign events table.

I am also big advocate of having a rule book to hand but I would go with the pdf and print that out, as it is more up to date than the hardback book.

So Saint Hazard how are your ventures into Necromunda coming along?

Peter

One big thing I recommend is terrain...lots of it. Not only is the underhive supposed to be a major jumble of debris...but terrain is a huge part of Necro. Since there is usually no one wearing armor then you need to make sure you dont get hit. Best way to do that is cover bonuses.


Fun part of Necro terrain is it can be anything you want. It actually adds a fun dimension to the game.


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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I bought the rulebook dig it all age or not

They are not expensive on ebay and imho a lot easier to use. It will cost as much in ink and hassle to print off the computer.
Also would recommend the source book for campaign info.

I agree with peter about Outlanders.
Also I agree with what others have said elsewhere about the change in rules regarding gangs having limited weapons choices. I may be wrong but there seems little compensation and insufficient diffrence between gangs to warrant it.

good luck and you are guarranteed to have fun!

I have always ignored the rules limiting weapons to certain gangs. Its the farkin underhive...anyone can buy anything. Sure, having every member of your gang with something special would be dumb...but the gang leader and maybe one other ganger with something trick seems like it would be quite normal.

Agree with everyone on here about not buying the rulebook from GW but not about downloading the PDF (although do that anyway for reference). I'd say the best bet is to try and beg, steal or borrow the original version of the Rulebook, Sourcebook and Outlanders. We use that because we still have it kicking around from the mid-nineties when it first came out. You might find them on e-bay or maybe there'll be a dodgy PDF or two floating about somewhere.

Also don't buy the new Scavvy, Redemptionist or Ratskin models as they lick balls compared to the originals. I was thinking of a Ratskin gang before I saw that they'd changed the models. I'd either convert/scratch build your own or try e-bay again. I don't know why they even changed them, they left the six house gangs and Spryers the same as before.

But, yeah, Necromunda is hellishly fun and addictive. The only downside is GW's prices and new Outlander gangs.

Peace.

I'm also keen to start playing Necromunda saint! i've been asking a lot of similar questions, and the majority of people who play say it's more fun than 40k! the conversion options are endless and the game play apparently is quite cinematic which is always good for those of us who enjoy the pure escapism the tabletop wargame brings us! I can't wait to buy some Elysian drop troops and use them as house van saar, I also downloaded the rulebook from the web and printed it out but it's just so in depth and weighty that i've struggled understanding the rules so far, so i'm relying on a friend who plays to take some time out and run throught the basics with me, but i'm pretty excited about it, it should be great fun having your own gang roaming around capping fools and causing havoc! what could be better? hope you enjoy expecting to play as much as I :-)

If you have the rules and the gang then next thing I would suggest is terrain, lots and lots of terrain. One of the things I like most about Necromunda is the densily packed awesome terrain, something warhammer fantasy and warhammer 40k are unable to supply. It's like Cities of Death and then some.

Seconded!
For a quick start I just got a cardboard box a pair of scissors and some masking tape.
Made for a flexible system, enabling a new set up if you wanted
Old margerine tubs for walkway supports. Cost nowt and the kids thought it cool!

It gets you going with minimum effort while you can start making something more awesome.

Am currently making some more robust terrain. Again it is on the cheap and as quick as I can due to other projects demanding time. But you can really go to town with detailing and aesthetics if you want.

I am using polystyrene packaging, the sort that comes with TV's etc. It already has some interesting architectural shapes.

Chibi - I hope you're going to give us a nice terrain blog.

Terrain is very important. I find no matter how many levels we play on people tend to stay on the ground or one level above (except for heavies). We use a mix of original necro and some cities of death stuff. So if I were to make some more multi level terrain and walkways I'd make sure everything has railings for a I re roll to stop falling and to give at least -1 to hit on the walk ways.

Peter

Peter
Will try to get some pics up soon, but it's up to you guys to decide if it's nice or no

Am wanting to put barriers on the walkways but struggling for something that won't take to long/cost lots.

Any ideas would be good please.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Peter
Will try to get some pics up soon, but it's up to you guys to decide if it's nice or no

Am wanting to put barriers on the walkways but struggling for something that won't take to long/cost lots.

Any ideas would be good please.

Barbed wire.

I know that sounds crazy, but it works for a lot of different things in 40k, from lining trenches to putting up fences to creating barriers on catwalks and walkways. Especially if you prime it black and paint it to match the walkway... it'd look nice.

At present I may just put some plastic card up
Barbed wire sounds a good idea and has a rightness for the brutality of the Under Hive! But also too fiddly for my needs

Actually I think it may be as well to take this to another thread. will try and sort it out later and pop up a linky.

Your thread is in danger of getting hijacked St. Hazard
Many apologies

It's not getting hijacked, I'm handing over the keys to the shady valet with his pants hanging down to his ass and twenty gold chains hanging out of his shirt, wearing a red bandanna and sporting a scruffy goatee. In fact, this guy probably isn't even a valet at all, why the hell am I giving him the keys to my thread? Oh hell, there it goes. My brand new thread on which I just put the down payment is driving off into the sunset with my wife in the passenger seat.