Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Been thinking about this, I like the gothic, but it aesthetically doesn't sit well as a cruiser, looking far too bulky, it would look better to my eye as a battlecruiser. My fleet are going to be from the 'Maruran' system in Segmentum Pacificus and so I thought why not create a battlecruiser(ed) version, with lances aplenty.

Maruran Class Battlecruiser:

Type/Hits
Cruiser 8

Speed 20
Turn 45
Shields 2
Armour 6 front, 5 all other

Turrets 2

Armament:
Dorsal Lances Range 60cm fp/strength 2
Starboard Lance 45cm fp/strength 4
Port Lance 45 cm fp/strength 4
Prow Nova Cannon 30-150cm fp/strength 1

I figure a pts value of 245. Seem ok?

Ah, the battle cruiser variant of the Gothic...saw this one come up from time to time on Port Maw. I would say your ship is pretty reasonable. Your lances are roughly equivalent to the broadside firepower of the Armageddon class (2 lances are considered about equal to 6 WBs), but your ship has a Nova Cannon instead of torps; that upgrade usually means +20 points, as seen in the Tyrant and Lunar classes. So, I would call it a little under-costed, but not horribly so. Up the price to 265, or give it torps instead and keep it at 245 IMO.

Can't seem to find any trace of the Port Maw forums, is there any decent (alive) BFG site left out there?

(and thanks re the nova cannon price, I think I'll leave it as optional for +20 then).

Well, based on a thread over at Warseer, it appears that PM was hacked a little while back and the webmaster is struggling to put it back together. Horizon is pretty close to the webmaster (he is also the editor of the Warp Rift BFG e-zine), so he might be able to shed some light on the progress. As for other forums, about the best I can think of is either the Specialist Games forum or the Tactical Wargames.net forums.

Port Maw seems utterly gone.... :( (and I ain't that close the webmaster. I even don't have his email).

However, we do have:
http://www.sg.tacticalwargames.net/forum
Active. Development (official draft test rules for Tau, Marines and some other). FAQ2010. Good.

Then:
http://www.taccmd.tacticalwargames.net/index.php
host site for GothiComp and Warp Rift.

Warseer also has a decent active bfg subforum.


On the ship
Gothic 180
+ nova +20
+ ranges on port/starboard +20
+ 2 dorsal lances +20
rough estimations.

Though there is one thing: 6 lances as a broadside from a mere cruiser is pushing the envelope. Could be faced with dismay.

To work this out you need to base this off the Armageddon rather than the Gothic.

The Armageddon has gives 45cm range to existing (Lunar)guns, plus the dorsal 60cm lances at 245pts. The Gothic is the same price as a Lunar, therefore a Gothic batlecruiser is similar to the Armageddon. Which costs 245pts with torpedoes.

20pts extra is normal for Nova cannon, though personally I wouldnt allow it, the power drain must be horrendous as it is with ten long range lances.

So lose the Nova Cannon, instead carry torps range 30, fp/str 6 frontal arc.

Keep points at 245.

Ok, seems fine.

horizon wrote:Port Maw seems utterly gone.... :( (and I ain't that close the webmaster. I even don't have his email).

Oops, guess that was a mistaken impression on my part then. It is sad to see that Port Maw might be down for good...it was my primary forum for 3 years!