My list;
140 Demon Prince +
MoK + Wings
260 9 Khorne beserkers
AC +
PW +
MB
Rhino
250 9
CSM + MoCG + 2 Meltas
AC +
PW +
MB
Rhino
250 9
CSM + MoCG + 2 Meltas
AC +
PW +
MB
Rhino
250 9
CSM + MoCG + 1
LC
AC +
PW +
MB
Rhino
135 Predator +
TLLC + SSHB's
135 Predator +
TLLC + SSHB's
75 Obliterator
Its a bit shy of 1500 but the actual list was. It should also be noted that a slight variation of this list was originally meant to go against orks, the build up of long range
LC and dakka was to hopefully counter variations of nob rushes.
My opponent; ( This is only going to be a approximation as I don't have his list in front of me)
125 Basilisk
245 Leman Russ Executioner + Lascannon Hull mount + SSPC
185 Leman Russ + Lascannon Hull mount + SSHB
130 Valkyrie + MRP
100 Veteran Squad + 2
MG
Vereran Weapons Team +
AC
Veteran's Sergaent
155 Veteran Squad + 2
MG
Vereran Weapons Team +
AC
Veteran's Sergaent
Chimera +
ML +
HB
155 Veteran Squad + 2
MG
Vereran Weapons Team +
AC
Veteran's Sergaent
Chimera +
ML +
HB
155 Veteran Squad + 2
MG
Vereran Weapons Team +
AC
Veteran's Sergaent
Chimera +
ML +
HB
155 Veteran Squad + 2
MG
Vereran Weapons Team +
AC
Veteran's Sergaent
Chimera +
ML +
HB
180 Psyker Battle Squad
Chimera +
AC +
HB
??? Company Command Squad
This matchup took place last evening.
We rolled spear head as deployment and capture and control as mission type.
IG took first turn
Deployment
IG
Basilisk in the back corner and Leman Russes on each flank with everything else spread out in the middle. Decent cover.
Deployment
CSM
I had a hill and a forest to use as cover and one alien plant. I stuck my
DP behind the alien plant and left my rhinos in the open sitting on the circle edge with the predators behind them. The
LC csm were placed on the hill hull down and the Oblit was in the trees. A poor deployment but it should be noted that I was under the impression that reserves could only come in on my deployment zone not the entire table edge. Still I know it was a poor deployment I just didn't see a better option.
Turn 1
IG
Some slight rearranging of a model and the Valkyrie zipped up to my table edge behind cover.
In his shooting he killed one Rhino Immobilized another, and stunned the last( which basically stayed stunned all game except for turn 5. the rhino which was devastated also had my Beserkers in it, by the end of his shooting I had 3 left which had gone to ground.
Turn 1
CSM
I moved my
DP toward his Valkyrie and laterally moved my Preds preparring for a turn 2 12 inch move. My Oblit moved to get a firing lane on his executioner. the squad from the immobilized Rhino moved for the hills.
I may have stunned some stuff here but all I really accomplished was taking the turret of the executioner.
DP ran to get some cover.
Turn 2
IG
Once again some slight shifting around. The big surprise here was forgetting to move his Valkyrie.
Stunned one rhino and maybe took off a gun, the rhino belonging to my
LC couldn't shoot.
Turn 2
CSM
I moved my
DP into assault range of his Valkyrie. I disembarked my
LC squad and moved my Rhino up 6 and Popped smoke. I moved my Preds up 12 and popped smoke. Now I had a wall of smoke around my rhino that was stunned. My footsloggers moved towards his flank and the bunker that was there next to three of his tanks, there are 4 remaining at this point.
Shooting didn't do much if anything.
My demon Prince assaulted and killed his Valkyrie, the explosion killed 5 of his Veteran Squad.
Turn 3
IG
Moved his Leman Russ closest to my
DP forward 11". Inching a few squads forward preparing to attempt to contest my Victory Point.
Immobilized One of my Pred's and blew up my screening rhino. Put a wound on my
DP with his VS.
Assaulted my
DP with his veteran squad which was at half strength, the
DP did one unsaved wound and the VS did 2 Unsaved Wounds.
Turn 3
CSM
Moved my Pred laterally to try and get shots on his
PBS and side armor of his
LR. Moved my footsloggers into the bunker. Moved my remaining Rhino forward 6"
The bunker boys shot two melta at very short range at the executioner and both missed. Mass fire only immobiled 1 Chimera and took off another weapon from the executioner.
The
DP finished off the VS and Consolidated ontop of a building.
Turn 4
IG
Inching toward my Deployment Zone moved the Leman Russ out of reach of the
DP.
Shooting Immobilized my other Pred and killed my Oblit. He destroyed the bunker my 4 survivors were in. He then killed 3 of them.
Turn 4
CSM
I moved my
DP toward his basilisk and
VP but with one wound I wasnt hopeing for much. I moved my remaining 3
KB toward my victory point.
Shooting didnt do anything for me this turn even with twin linked lascannons shooting side armors "sigh"
With my remaining
CSM that was in the bunker I attacked the Executioner and killed it with my Melta Bomb.
Turn 5
IG
Shuffling his units around to move onto my
VP and to get a shot with his
PBS at my
LC Unit.
Shooting puts 2 wounds on my
LC unit. Not enough to make it take a moral save. Yippee. He kills off my lone bomber. He shoots but misses my
DP
Turn 5
CSM
I move the
DP to assault the Basilisk. I disembark the last full power squad and put it within two inches of my
VP.
Shooting I dont think did anything this turn.
the
DP killed the Basilisk in the explosion he lost 9 guys that were camping his
VP. He consolidates 3 inches into cover.
Game continues.
Turn 6
IG
I don't think he could move much now and so my
VP is safe-ish. He spreads out his squads camping his
VP to deny my
DP from stealing his
VP.
Shooting doesnt do much.
Cannot assault anything.
Turn 6
CSM
I can't remember what I did but it didn't amount to much at this point.
Game ends as a draw.
Alot of mistakes were made all round. If I had deployed better, if he would have remembered to move his Valkyrie turn 2 and many more.
this game was memorable to me because of how many mistakes we each made, making it probably the best learning game we have had.
I was surprised at how durable my Pred's were even though I was counting on it.
After the crushing first turn I was so demoralized I wanted to forfeit right there but I stuck in there and scraped out a tie.
After some thinking and surfing this is my list in response to that defeat/tie;
155
DP + Warptime
155
DP + Warptime
120 3 Terminators + 3 Combi-Melta +
PF
256 6
PM + 2
MG
AC +
PF
Rhino
255 9
CSM + 2
MG +MoCG
AC +
PF
Rhino
255 9
CSM + 2
MG +MoCG
AC +
PF
Rhino
150 2 Oblits
150 2 Oblits
I need a list that can give a fight to
IG ork and
BA as those are the armies I currently play against.
I really liked my predators but Deep striking termies and Oblits against
IG seems like the better plan than a tank wall. Would this list still hold up against a ork nob rush, whether in a BW or on bikes? It should be noted that i've had some really good luck with 5 Chosen with a autocannon in the past which I played based off the recommendations of a few dakkaers.
Im very torn between
PW vs
PF on regular
CSM ive heard all the arguments for both and plan on trying
PF out for awhile but in my gut I want to go
PW.
When is our new codex coming out? I want me some razorbacks.
