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Ok so for those that may have not seen of heard,

The Shogun 2 Totalwar Demo was released on steam a few days ago.

For those that did know and have tried it, I'm curious to knwo what you thought of it ?

Cheers
Wolf

downloading it still. But I'll get back to you with an update.

*Edit* Ooops, I'm actually getting the DA2 demo atm. I'll do shogun after that. So The update won't be until torrow. Sorry.

Watched it played last night. Looks great.

So is it closer to Medieval 2 or Empire?

I saw one of the dev gameplay videos on youtube and was unimpressed.

It looked like they were makeing two armies of those tiny brown ants duke it out.

Melissia wrote:So is it closer to Medieval 2 or Empire?

Never played any of the previous.

I got the Steam demo but it would stop responding before I even made it to the main-menu.

But it's not a huge deal in the end. I think I'll prefer Medieval II simply for the setting. Which is odd since one of my majors is Asian History, and I take Japanese...Medieval studies was a close second though....

I loved Rome and Medieval.

This better be as good, if not better.

I wish they made a shogun game that isnt in just japan but mongolia ,China Thailand, Burma, Vietnam, India and Tebit .

I feel we are going to get less in a campaign to more adavance tactical battles then just strategy and thats fine but I feel thier will be a lack of variety of units due to it being just japan.

Just played the demo, and honestly it feels like Medieval 2 with a Japanese theme; archers are still underpowered (at least, that's what it felt like to me in M2 and still feels in this) and cavalry is still overpowered (which is unfortunate, seeing as that was what I disliked most about M2; the fact that cavalry charges are utterly devestating against everything except spears, which I still managed to kill through repeated use of spearhead, withdraw, spearhead; but honestly, I can just set all my others on the spears and use cavalry against everything else).

Can't say anything about the naval stuff yet, but on land it feels very much like cavalry continue to rule over everything else by a significant margin.

My scottish pikes laughed at cavalry based armies. And everything else too outside of gunpowder really.

Even mounted ranged units? Horse archers run so many rings around things it's unbelievable.

No fair
My laptop is not up to the spec.
I played Shogun on my old laptop til it died but this stupid Windows Vista doesn't want to play it
or most of my other favourite games

Thank you very much Mr. Gates you rob dogging b'tard!

saw the trailer and it looks ace.

Avatar 720 wrote:Just played the demo, and honestly it feels like Medieval 2 with a Japanese theme; archers are still underpowered (at least, that's what it felt like to me in M2 and still feels in this) and cavalry is still overpowered (which is unfortunate, seeing as that was what I disliked most about M2; the fact that cavalry charges are utterly devestating against everything except spears, which I still managed to kill through repeated use of spearhead, withdraw, spearhead; but honestly, I can just set all my others on the spears and use cavalry against everything else).

Can't say anything about the naval stuff yet, but on land it feels very much like cavalry continue to rule over everything else by a significant margin.

Thats all pretty historically accurate though, as long as the cav units and archers are priced for balance then it'll be ok.

Avatar 720 wrote:Even mounted ranged units? Horse archers run so many rings around things it's unbelievable.

Sure, because my pikes are supported by highland noble archers, the best infantry archers in the game, and mere horse bows don't scare my chainmail wearing axe wielding archers of doom.

Supported by Hospitallers (hardly a difficult thing to obtain), Scotland is the strongest army in the game until the introduction of gunpowder, but only because they don't have any gunpowder units themselves.