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Hey guys! I was wondering if i could play Mordheim with my WHFB miniatures. I have a Chaos Army and my sister has a Beastmen army.
I have:
Chaos Warriors, Marauders, Knights
She has:
Gors, Ungors, Shaman

Please, tell me which figures can be used as which Mordheim band minis.(if it is possible of course).
And please tell me - on what table can we play it ( i mean size ).

And about the rules:
Every time i and my sister play it is awfully boring. We have the stats of the soldiers and we have a basic rules reference sheet.
It goes like this:
1.We throw a dice to see who moves first.
2.We move.
3.We get the minis to a fight range.
4.We count how much weapons each miniature has. - this means that we see how much times we throw the dice ( To hit chart )
5.Then we compare the attacker's weapon skill with the attacked's weapon skill
6. all the attacks that are left are then checked if the wound ,this is done so - we compare the attacker's atack strength to the attacked's toughness
7. if even one hits then we remove the attacked mini - if not, then the attacked mini does a counter strike and we go back to 4. but this time the minis are switched.

Here is an example:
A chaos marauder is fighting a beastmen gor
1. The chaos marauder has 4 WS and the gor has 4 WS too. The marauder needs a 4+ to hit. He has two weapons so he gets 2 throws.
2. Let's say he manages with one of the attacks. He now has to wound. The mrauder has 3 Strength and the Gor has 4 toughness, so the marauder needs a 5+ to kill the Gor.

You see that it's very boring....i know that the rules are complete bs, so please explain them to me the way i explained the steps.


PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Hi

I have good memories of Mordheim & it shouldn't be THAT boring. I remember play testing it from the series of White Dwarfs they did with all the development rules in them (back when GW did that kind of thing)

You can't have a Chaos Warrior warband per se but I say persevere & have a look on the GW site & you will find all the rules & miniatures (you can proxy if you like until you get the right models & there's nothing wrong with using other WHFB minis). In fact I say use substitute minis and try all the varying warbands until you find one that really appeals to you. I've included the link for you:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat480008a&categoryId=1100010§ion=&aId=5300009

For your games it's about getting the right warband as well as scenery (very important) and I recommend, as do the rules, playing on a 4x4 table/area. For scenery you can use anything but you need a good range of building levels, barricades etc or things to represent them. Ruined buildings can be easily made out of cardboard/cereal boxes using PVA glue (or even packing tape) & I'm sure there are tutorials/templates online you can follow or use, perhaps even on youtube.

Have a very good read of all the rules and proxy some situations to get a feel of the shooting/combat etc, including interception scenarios and other bits. Games like Mordheim & Necromunda need to be fluidly played in order to get the most out of them, more so than 40k or Warhammer. Mordheim is about the interaction between all your warband's elements & whatever equipment each model is carrying.

Combat in Mordheim can be quite dynamic as some models may be able to Parry or Intercept etc...

This is an example of how combat should work...
Let's say you have a Beastman with a hand weapon & light armour vs. a Human Champion w/a Sword & Buckler (can re-roll parries). The Beastman decides to charge...

1: Charge into combat (declare then measure - if not within range then moves normal - if an enemy is within 2'' of the 'charge line' they may intercept)
2: Let's say he gets into combat. Both have an Initiative of 3 & WS 4 so fight simultaneously.
3: You both roll to hit needing 4's. You both hit.
4: The Human player can then attempt a Parry. Let's say the Beastman rolled a 5. The human player gets lucky and rolls a 6! The beastman's attack is then cancelled.
5 The Human player rolls to wound but needs 5's. He gets lucky again and rolls a 5!
6: The Beastman makes an armour save but rolls a pathetic 1. He takes a wound.
7: The Beastman, however, has two wounds, so they remain locked in combat for another turn.

And so on...

You'll find that there's a difference between all the equipment that makes a very great difference in combat.

It may seem boring compared to Warhammer but it is a small skirmish game which relies on detail, tactics & the interaction between your warband's components in order to become fun. So things like blocking line of sight, providing covering fire, making sure you have interceptors to block enemy charges etc all come into play to make the game what it is.

Stick with it and follow the rules, use substitute minatures to represent your warbands, make sure you have plenty of scenery, check all the PDF's online & you should find that after a few Games you'll get the hang of it & find it a lot less boring.

Hope this helps

thx for the cool reply man! it really helped! i love Mordheim but i was sad because we had problems with the rules. Thx!

To echo something warspawned said, you really, really need to make sure that you have a lot of terrain for Mordheim. Not just big pieces like you might have in WFB, but also little pieces that would be largely pointless and ignored in a mass combat game (like single barrels and crates). Because your movement and line of sight is so much more flexible than WFB, a regular WFB board will seem too "open" and give you a relatively uninteresting fight, where a cluttered battlefield with restricted lines of sight and lines of movement will allow you a lot more interesting game.

I suspect that some people might have tried Mordheim with a relatively uncluttered WFB table, and thought that the game was pretty boring as a result.

yes, you are right - i am making some buildings right now. and thx!

Make low walls, single trees, a stack of boxes, etc. You need many things like those scattered everywhere.

i'll try, i'm making ruined buildings now and when i'm done i'll add some ruins.