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2012/04/30 12:09:09
Subject: The Olympic Games, now with added residential SAMs!
Both articles are fairly similar but are worth a look. I'd love to know what they are expecting to encounter, short of an Alien invasion, that warrants this much militarisation.
Gak is clearly expected to go down. We probably should all start selling our Olympic Tickets... oh wait...
The Ministry of Defence is considering placing surface-to-air missiles on residential flats during the Olympics.
An east London estate, where 700 people live, has received leaflets saying a "Higher Velocity Missile system" could be placed on a water tower.
A spokesman said the MoD had not yet decided whether to deploy ground based air defence systems during the event.
But estate resident Brian Whelan said firing the missiles "would shower debris across the east end of London".
The journalist said: "At first I thought it was a hoax. I can't see what purpose high-velocity missiles could serve over a crowded area like Tower Hamlets.
"They say they'll only use them as a last resort, but... you'd shower debris across the east end of London by firing these missiles."
Mr Whelan, who claims to have seen soldiers carrying a crate into the building, said his property management company put up posters and gave out the leaflets on Saturday.
He continued: "They are going to have a test run next week, putting high velocity missiles on the roof just above our apartment and on the back of it they're stationing police and military in the tower of the building for two months.
"It [the leaflet] says there will be 10 officers plus police present 24/7."
Resident Brian Whelan: "It creates a lot of fear. It's a massive inconvenience"
Rushana Ali, MP for Bethnal Green and Bow, said: "It looks like it's been imposed without proper consultation.
"I will be asking the government to explain why. The MoD does need to look at this again."
The leaflet states that members of the Armed Forces will be at the location for a military exercise between 2 and 7 May.
It goes on to say there will be a "major national exercise" from 2 to 10 May to test the Armed Forces' capabilities for providing security during the Olympics.
The document added that if the government decides to use the missiles during the Games, the soldiers could be "operationally deployed for a period of up to two months this summer".
The weapon being considered is a High Velocity Missile (HVM) system, which would be based on the Lexington Building Water Tower. The tower contains residential flats.
'Excellent view'
The MoD says in the leaflet that the missiles will not pose a hazard to residents and "will only be authorised for active use following specific orders from the highest levels of government in response to a confirmed and extreme security threat".
The document states: "Having a 24/7 Armed Forces and police presence will improve your local security and will not make you a target for terrorists.
Extract from MoD leaflet This part of the leaflet assures residents that their residence will not become a terrorist target
"The location has been chosen as it is situated close to the Olympic Park and offers an excellent view of the surrounding area and the entire sky above the Olympic Park.
"The top of the tower also offers a flat, uncluttered and safe area from which to operate."
The Army website says the HVM system is "designed to counter threats from very high performance, low-flying aircraft".
It says the missile travels at more than three times the speed of sound, using "a system of three dart-like projectiles to allow multiple hits on the target".
The missiles can be fired from the shoulder, from a lightweight multiple launcher or from armoured vehicles.
A MoD spokesman said: "As announced before Christmas, ground based air defence systems could be deployed as part of a multi-layered air security plan for the Olympics, including fast jets and helicopters, which will protect the skies over London during the Games.
"Based on military advice we have identified a number of sites and, alongside colleagues from the Metropolitan Police, are talking to local authorities and relevant landowners to help minimise the impact of any temporary deployments.
"As part of our ongoing planning, we can confirm site evaluations have taken place."
The MoD has previously said it was considering plans to install surface-to-air missiles in south-east London at Blackheath and Shooters Hill during the Olympics.
Spoiler:
Surface-to-air missiles could be deployed at five sites across London, as preparations begin for a major Olympics security exercise.
The Lexington Building in Tower Hamlets and the Fred Wigg Tower in Waltham Forest, both in east London, are sites.
Also named are Blackheath Common and Oxleas Wood, both in south-east London; William Girling Reservoir in Enfield; and Barn Hill in Epping Forest.
It comes as details were given of a major exercise taking place this week.
Exercise Olympic Guardian is being held on land, sea and air in the London and Weymouth areas between 2 and 10 May.
It will see a wide range of capabilities rehearsed.
The Ministry of Defence has stressed that the government has not yet decided to deploy ground-based air defence systems during the Games.
Brian Whelan, a resident of one of the east London estates, said firing the missiles "would shower debris across the east end of London".
Standing joint commander General Sir Nick Parker said the decision on the missiles would be taken "at the very highest political level".
Referring to this week's exercise he said the military advice to the government "will depend on the success of that test".
Asked whether debris would fall on urban areas if a missile was fired, Gen Parker said: "I accept that this a very, very challenging situation."
Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said: "Support for the Olympic Games will be an important task for defence in 2012 and this exercise is about pushing our people and our systems to the limit to ensure that we are ready for the challenge.
"The majority of this exercise will be played out in full view of the public and I hope that it will have a secondary effect of reassuring the British people that everything possible is being done to ensure this will be a safe and secure Olympic and Paralympic Games."
At a security briefing this week it was also announced that this week's exercise will include:
The berthing of HMS Ocean at Greenwich, with a number of Royal Navy Lynx helicopters on board.
The deployment of HMS Bulwark and other ships to Weymouth Bay and Portland Harbour.
The basing of RAF Typhoon fast jets at RAF Northolt, west London.
Royal Navy airborne early warning helicopters and RAF Puma helicopters at a Territorial Army centre in Ilford, east London.
The operation of fast jets and helicopters over Greater London and the Home Counties.
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The journalist said: "At first I thought it was a hoax. I can't see what purpose high-velocity missiles could serve over a crowded area like Tower Hamlets.
"They say they'll only use them as a last resort, but... you'd shower debris across the east end of London by firing these missiles."
Hom hum, a new type of NIMBY emerges. Its ok if you let Al Quaeda crash a jumbo into the stadium, so long as bits of missile don't land on my backyard.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2012/04/30 16:21:34
Subject: Re:The Olympic Games, now with added residential SAMs!
Orlanth wrote:The journalist said: "At first I thought it was a hoax. I can't see what purpose high-velocity missiles could serve over a crowded area like Tower Hamlets.
"They say they'll only use them as a last resort, but... you'd shower debris across the east end of London by firing these missiles."
Hom hum, a new type of NIMBY emerges. Its ok if you let Al Quaeda crash a jumbo into the stadium, so long as bits of missile don't land on my backyard.
Strangely, I've not felt the fear of anyone crashing a jumbo jet into anything. Once. I was surprised briefly by it happening about 10 years ago. Shocked, perhaps even.