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Longtime Dakkanaut





Where I play regularly is using a comp matrix now to figure out the majority of the comp score.  Personally, since I keep on getting boned on comp regardless of what I do, I've decided to make the most powerful list I can.

1st list (23/25 comp)

Master (PW/SB, Terminator armor. 
   4 Termies (2 AC)

Epistolary (FW/SB, Terminator armor, Fury, fear)
   4 Termies (2 AC)

6 man las/plas in Razorback (Twin heavy bolter)

6 man las/plas in Razorback (Twin Lascannon)

6 man las/plas

6 man Plasma cannon Tac squad

Land speeder squadron (2 Tornados)

Whirlwind

Pred (AC/2 HB)

8 man Dev Squad (4 ML)

 

2nd List (22/25 comp)

Master (LC/SB, Terminator armor)
   4 Termies (2 AC, 1 CF)

Epistolary (FW/SB, Terminator armor, Fear, Fury, Furious charge)
   4 Termies (2 AC, 1 CF)

6 man Las/plas squad
   Razorback (Twin HB)

2x6 man Las/Plas squads

6 man Plasma cannon squad

5 man assault squad (vet w/power fist)

Land speeder squad (2 Tornados)

8 Man Devestator squad (4 ML)

Pred (AC/2 HB)

Which one do you think is more powerful?  Note, that it'll be the weird missions that used to be in GT's and the second list should earn 1 less comp point, but since I keep on getting tanked on sports/comp there's no real incentive not to take the more powerful of the lists.

   
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Anyone? Bueler?
   
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The Hammer

A few prejudices of mine:
1) I don't like heavy support devastators with heavy weapons and without infiltrate - Honour Your Wargear, Neophyte.
2) If possible, I prefer single Tornado squadrons.
3) Plasma cannons are iffy at best.

I think you could be better off with a whirlwind than a predator - does the same job for fewer points - if you focus on infantry. Focusing on vehicles, it's fine and dandy, but then I'd try and cram in a few more razorbacks, and possibly even a missile launcher/assault cannon vennie. On a minor note, I wouldn't bother buying the Librarian in Terminator armour any extra weapons. For an extra ten points, the Master can take a pair of Lightning Claws which are a lot nastier than the power sword. You might possibly consider grabbing a ninth terminator and putting both the Librarian and Master in the same command squad. It puts several eggs in one basket, true, but you can allocate up to four unlucky saves to the characters, and they'll be quite savage on the assault between 4 I 6 force weapon attacks and the good ol' I6 S5 A6 from assaulting lightning claws. I've often been a fan of Terminator Chaplains just to go totally over the top for the litanies on the crozius, sergeant and master, though the ethnic one is probably a few too many points for your list.

The number one thing: infantry or armour, decide and go for target overload in one area.

When soldiers think, it's called routing. 
   
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Well, the lists are with the models I have. I was just wondering which would be better.
   
 
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