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Okay, so I haven't touched anything Privateer Press since about 2003, but just fed up with Games Workshop that I am selling it all and moving onto Warmahine. I came up with a list that hopefully is not too terrible. Would appreciate all feedback for improvements.

Kommander Sorscha

Destroyer Heavy Warjack
-9

Destroyer Heavy Warjack
-9

Winter Guard Mortar
-3

Winter Guard Mortar
-3

Winter Guard Rifle Corps (10)
-8

Widowmakers
-4

Battle Mechaniks (4)
-2

Battle Mechanik Officer (Just because I love the model haha)
-2

40 Points

Once again, looking for input. Thank you!

My only issue would be 2 destroyer and no heavy beat stick jack. You're shooting with RAT 4 at 14in, so your dropping focus on them just to hit reliably. I'd drop one and think about Beast 09 (especially with his affinity for Sorcha). You'll still have plenty of long range shooting and something to counter punch with

Hah, I was actually really thinking of getting Beast, dropping the mechaniks and officer, and take the Widowmaker marksman or Josef. After I did a bit more reading in the Khador Force book.

I would drop both destroyers and get beast in there. Then, you will have 7 points to play with. If you then drop one of the mortars, you then have enough for the cliche WGDS! which works very well with sorscha (fog of war gives them all concealment). destroyers arent too great most of the time. They arent accurate and they arent that great in melee. Khador casters usually do not want to be spending focus constantly boosting atk rolls, they need that focus for spells most of the game, until that critical point where the lines clash, then they blow all their focus into their heavy and smash a critical hard target to slag. Beast 09 does that better than pretty much everything and he is very dangerous for assassinating enemy warcasters and slaughtering mass amounts of infantry.

Okay, so here is another list I made with the input you guys gave me. Please let me know if this is a step in the right direction haha.

Kommander Sorscha

Beast 09
-11

Devastator
-9

Kovnik Jozef
-2

Winter Guard Mortar
-3

Winter Guard Mortar
-3

Winter Guard Rifle Corps
-8

Widowmakers
-4

Total - 40

My question is do you own any Khador models yet, if you do not I highly suggest building a simple 15/25 pt army and figuring out how the game plays out before getting into the bigger point levels.

Something like

eSorcha (Forward Kommander Sorcha) (+6)
Spriggan (10)
Beast 09 (11)

This is a solid 15 points.

Increasing to 25 just add

Full WInterguard + UA (8)
Kovnik Joe (2)

This will introduce you to most of the game at smaller point levels and are all solid model buys for other lists. You can then add further models based on what you know about the game and you will be %100 happy with the fact that you purchased these models after you understand the game more.

Hah, yea, I do own some khador models. Went a bit nuts and bought what i thought looked the best. Here is what I own.

1x Kommander Sorscha
2x Destroyer
2x Devastator
1x juggernaught
1x Beast
1x Battle Mechanik Officer
1x Kovnik Joe
1x Widowmaker Marksman
2x Winterguard Mortar
1x Winderguard Rifle Corps Box
1x Battle Mechanik Box

Went a bit overboard to start off but figured I might as well get everything I like so I can start painting it all and when it is time to step up from a basic level it already ready to go.

Just wondering because I are such a noob, what would you suggest for a 15 point list with what I have. And, thank you for your reply.

Based on your models I would suggest something like so:

15 pts:

pSorcha (+5)
-Beast 09 (10)
-Juggernaut (7)

Mechanics (2)

25 pts:

pSorcha (+5)
-Beast 09 (11)
-Juggernaut (7)

Max Rifle Corps (8)
Joe (2)
Mechanics (2)


Now let me make some comments about the models you've purchased, my opinion entirely. You have some issues in that you bought some redundant models that you will almost certainly never play without unless you specifically just throw them in just for fun. You will essentially never run 2 destroyers or 2 devastators in a list and will most likely never run a single destroyer period. 2 mortars is an ok buy, but unless you are running irusk you will almost never run 2 mortars at once. You will never run the battle mechanic officer unless you get Man o Wars, namely shocktroopers. Juggernauts are ok, but generally you will never run them except with Karchev. Winterguard rifleman are...meh. They are only good at killing other infantry and sub-par at that compared to winterguard and kayazy.

Your biggest issue is you need another infantry unit for 35 pts, you really shouldn't have more then 2 warjacks in a list running prime sorcha, infact 1 is all she can do. You will be hard pressed with your focus to run 2 jacks, she can run a single jack fine. I would suggest playing at 15/25 a lot, then purchasing another infantry unit (or 2 if you replace the rifleman). If you get just 1 unit, I suggest Ironfang Pikeman or Shocktroopers to compliment the rifleman so you have some hitting power.

I probably should have done more research before I blew so much money, but just bought mainly what I used in the first edition of the rules (ie. starter box, plus some mortards and another jack).

Thank you for the help, so if I am reading right I do believe you are suggesting a unit of regular Winterguard (unit attachments as well?) and a box of Shocktroopers? OK, now I am starting to get a picture in my head of what my list should probably look like.

So yes, regular winterguard infantry + UA + rocketeers are AMAZING with ironflesh, or even wtihout it. Shocktroopers are merely a preference, the reason I suggest shocktroopers or iron fang pikeman (IMO IFP+UA are really really good) is if you want to use the rifleman. So the rifleman dont have CRA so all they are is an expensive unit with 10 men who can shoot long range, with poor rat, and low pow...this is incredibly good for killing tons of weak infantry like mechanithralls, but to hit high defense infantry you need joe to give them the boost and you can even hurt shield wall, say arm 17+ infantry reliably. Rifleman also can't tarpit at all, so if they get into melee or have to hold a position...well they cant do that at all. To counter balance them IFP or shocktroopers are tarpit units that can also decimate heavy targets(these guys can kill warjacks easily).

So to give you an idea of what I picture for starting out khador at say 35 pts, your goal army for this intro stage where you will start playing the game after playing multiple games at say 25.

Using mostly the models you have:

Sorcha (+5)
Beast 09 (11)

Max Rifleman (8)
Max IFP+UA (10)

Mortar (3)
Joe (2)
eEiryss (3)
Widowmaker Marksman (2)
War Dog (1)

This army has massive tarpit in the IFP, the ability to take out armor with IFP + Beast, able to kill infantry easily with joe + rifleman, able to deal with upkeeps eiyrss

You can also replace the IFP + UA with 5 shocktroopers, then remove wardog and mortar to add in min mechanics + UA so you can advance with this tarpit unit, that does massive dmg if they get there, and your mechanics + UA can now heal the shocktroopers.