Two 15 point lists, One Cygnar, one Khador.

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**stratassj**

At the moment im stuck between Cygnar and Khador for my first force. I want to start off small, so i've come up with two 15 point lists, one for each force and i wanted to get peoples opinions of them before i put the cash down to pick up the models. I know the cygnar list will be more into the ranged game, compaired to the khador list which i think would be abit more ballanced.

Cygnar:
Kara Sloan
Defender
Hunter
Long Gunners (6)

Khador:
Butcher
Decimator
Berserker
Wardog
Winterguard mortar
Kovnik Joe

**SilverSaint**

Both lists look incredibly random TBH, with the Sloan army looking the more viable of the 2 for starting out, but she is trickier to play and until you know how the game works, you shouldnt buy long gunners(let alone a min unit) as they are a very complex unit play wise.

If you want to play cygar starting with Sloan

Sloan (+6)
-Defender (9)
-Hunter (6)
Gun Mages (6)

This army is just a simple gunline, thats really it, but it will teach you the basics of the game.

Butcher (+6)
Spriggan (10)
Max Kayazy + Underboss (10)

You can replace the kayazy with any other warjack and just call it a day, but they can infact kill anything at this points levels with butchers feat + fury + gang, thats like a single pow 15 +4 D6 on charge and a single pow 15 +3 D6 and you have 11 guys....so that should kill whole armies at this points level, let alone nothing should be able to handle iron fleshed kayazy, its a rather mean list.