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Knowing that Malifaux is moving to plastic, I'm taking another look at what they have to offer and I'm liking the new stuff a lot. There are a few things I'd like to know a little more about and I'm hoping you guys can help.

Since the Ten Thunders are the first guys that have a lot of plastic, I'm looking at using them for my gang. How are they regarding their learning curve? What would I need to put on my shopping list to be able to set up, learn the game, and have a balanced gang? Since they're a "dual faction" concept (I assume they're designed to work like allies in a Guild, Arcanist, or Neverborn gang), how workable would an all Ten Thunders gang be?

I'll probably have more questions later but that's all off the top of my head.

Thanks for your help, guys.

Breotan

For basic information, I suggest looking here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/forums/show/80.page

10T are not like Mercs or Minions from Warmachine or supplemental like Allies in 40k.

They are a fully fleshed out faction (albeit with less models in the pure 10T faction). The 10T faction master Mizaki is a full master, and quite good from what I've been hearing. She can hire any model in the 10T faction (this means the dual faction models too).

What I would suggest that you pick up the 10 Thunders box, the 10 Thunders Brothers, 10 Thunders Archers, Oiran, Yamaziko, etc... That would be a good place to start.

IF you want 10T specific books, I suggest buy Storm of Shadows and the Rules Manual, that would give you all the rules you need to play the game...

Those are the basic 10T models. There are a few that you can pepper it out with from the other factions...

 Alfndrate wrote:
IF you want 10T specific books, I suggest buy Storm of Shadows and the Rules Manual, that would give you all the rules you need to play the game...

Those are the basic 10T models. There are a few that you can pepper it out with from the other factions...

Sounds like a plan. I checked on MiniatureMarket's web site but they only have "The Thunder" box up and that's for pre-order. I looked on the forums and people are asking about release dates. Do you guys know if anything was said at GenCon?

Edit: Nevermind. I found it. Man, have to wait for December? :/

http://www.wyrd-games.net/content.php?203-Fall-Release-Schedule

A question about terrain. I realize that Terraclips kits are designed for use with Malifaux but I'm a little put off by the obtrusive connectors and somewhat flimsy appearance of the tables that I've seen assembled. I came across a thread about MDF buildings by Sarissa Precision and was wonding if any of you guys use their stuff. http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/cityblock28

What other sources of terrain are there that would work well with Malifaux?

 Breotan wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
IF you want 10T specific books, I suggest buy Storm of Shadows and the Rules Manual, that would give you all the rules you need to play the game...

Those are the basic 10T models. There are a few that you can pepper it out with from the other factions...

Sounds like a plan. I checked on MiniatureMarket's web site but they only have "The Thunder" box up and that's for pre-order. I looked on the forums and people are asking about release dates. Do you guys know if anything was said at GenCon?

Edit: Nevermind. I found it. Man, have to wait for December? :/

http://www.wyrd-games.net/content.php?203-Fall-Release-Schedule

A question about terrain. I realize that Terraclips kits are designed for use with Malifaux but I'm a little put off by the obtrusive connectors and somewhat flimsy appearance of the tables that I've seen assembled. I came across a thread about MDF buildings by Sarissa Precision and was wonding if any of you guys use their stuff. http://www.sarissa-precision.co.uk/store/cityblock28

What other sources of terrain are there that would work well with Malifaux?

Regarding terrain, I've found that most skirmish game stuff works pretty well. I tend to use mostly Mordheim buildings, fleshed out with the odd third-party ruin and some bits and bobs a friend made. The rulebook has various lists of terrain for different parts of Malifaux ranging from the ruins of the slums to the affluence of the downtown areas, and even frontier towns and the bogs and swamps of the bayou, so there's a wide range of areas you can fight in that should accomodate most terrain collections

In regards to terraclips, the connectors aren't all that obtrusive after you play a game or two on them, the smokey colored clips are far better than the "clear" ones they were originally going to go with.

I have my terraclips set up at home for home play (when I can convince friends to come over), but when I'm demo-ing, I use standard gale force 9 terrain, since I give demos an hour from my home and hate having to lug it with me to work and have it sit in my car just to set it up.

Our last board was a few small and large forests with hills, rivers, and a few others pieces.

But yeah, any skirmish sized terrain works for Malifaux. The best part is that beyond your normal terrain rules, like impassable, elevated, severe, hazardous, etc... When you're setting up the board, you flip to show which location you're fighting in, so you can be fighting in the badlands, and have dust storms prevent charging, or you have an arcane monument. It's all pretty cool.

And if you have a themed board, you can just forgo the flip and say, "Okay, this is my desert board so we'll play badlands" or if you were to play on AgeofEgos's Bayou booard, you could play swamps, etc...

One more question about terrain - about how many buildings do you guys usually have on a table? Is it crowded like Necromunda & Mordheim? Or more open like 40k/Fantasy?

Other than that, it looks like I'll order my Malifaux in December, because that's what Wyrd has for release dates. :( Other than the figures, I can start on terrain purchases sooner. Anything else I need to add to my shopping list like special templates and such?

Um... I tend to play like a... 5 big terrain pieces when demoing (some forests and hills),

When playing on terra clips, I try to get 4 big pieces, 2 to 3 medium pieces, and 3 small pieces (like a 2 inch wall)


This google images search has some pics from Wyrd's GenCon 2012 tournaments. I would post specific pics, but they're work blocked for me...

http://www.google.com/search?q=gencon+2012+malifaux+tournament&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&safe=active&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=jNyOUNXYGefIyQHdtIAY&biw=976&bih=622&sei=jtyOULvuKLSCyAHTyoDADw

the pics in particular are from Theback40k, freshcoast40k, and mydnightshobbycorner... they're not too bad, and sadly the vinyl mats that are used are ONLY for Wyrd's official tournaments simply because they're too expensive for sale atm



As to the templates, etc... The only template you need is a 50mm base for blast templates (probably need 2 at most, depending on how many blasts are in your army. The fate decks can be supplemented by your average bicycle deck for like a dollar. If you want a cheat sheet, to help, there is one on malifaux.com/downloads.

I have picked up the Heroic Western scale buildings by Sarissa, and they are okay, if a little small (models would be almost perfect w/o their bases). They go together quite nicely, and I plan on getting a few more. You are able to take the roofs off, which will make for some interesting tactics/hiding places/objective placements.

Also, if you check out Ratty's Malifaux Page (http://malifaux.nezumi.me.uk/), there are downloadable strategy & scheme cards, Counters, crew creator, Malifaux fonts, and more!

-Vilegrimm

That's a great site, Vilegrimm. They need to get Ten Thunders stuff up there. /wink-wink /nudge-nudge.

Ratty has the Ten Thunders stuff on the official Malifaux.com crew creator here:
http://malifaux.com/Crew.php

In fact, Malifaux.com's resources section has pretty much everything that Ratty has on his site, since he does all of that for Wyrd.

I've noticed something while looking over the faction .pdfs. Sometimes a character will have two or three cards, different models pictured in each, but the text seems to be identical on each card. What is about? Does each character's model need its own stat card even if there is no actual change to the rules from another model for that same character? Or am I just missing some rules impact that necessitates this?

Since Malifaux uses an alternating activation system, there are no units like other games. So if you look at like the 10 Thunders Archers, there are three different sculpts for the model, each one will have a stat card, this is to track wounds on each model, since they don't act as a unit. You can have all the same mode image on the card, as long as you differentiate somehow.

Yeah, if they've got the same name, they're the same, just different images. There are also a handful of limited edition pieces with different names but the same stats as existing models (such as Miss Terious, who's effectively a limited edition Death Marshal).

Which is why I'm glad I have three I can have an almost all female Justice crew

 Alfndrate wrote:
Which is why I'm glad I have three I can have an almost all female Justice crew

[/jealous]

You might see different stat cards for masters as well - again, there are no rules changes; it's just different artwork to suit the alternate sculpt

Also I feel it is worth noting that when there are 2 models with the same name (Hamelin, The Rat Catcher & Hamelin, The plagued or Misaki & Misaki, Mistress of the 10 Thunders) You are only allowed one of them. They are 2 different versions of the same person. THink Count Mannfred Von Carstein & Mannfred the Acolyte from WHFB or the Caster & Epic Caster versions in warmahordes.

Reposting for visibility. I'm wondering how using some of this stuff will work out. I'd like to use these walkways as balconies to give the Sarissa-Precision stuff more of a New Orleans vibe.

 Micro Art Studio wrote:
We would like to show you our new HDF terrain. There is a great chance that those will be available on Essen "Spiel". Those Walkways will also be a part of bonus goals on our indiegogo campaing: http://www.indiegogo.com/wolsungssg
More infos about our goals soon


XIX century Walkway

Does anyone know if this is compatible with the CityBlock 28mm buildings that Sarissa-Precision makes? Or at least close enough that it won't look really bad?

Hi, from experience, confined spaces like that aren't incredibly useful in Malifaux, where maneuvering is so important (though it could create interesting bottlenecks if you stick objectives on them).

I find that walls, catwalks, and other things which divide space is much more useful as terrain than specific small elements.

It is really nice looking, though.


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...unless I'm misunderstanding the structures it's made of, in which case, that would be pretty nice.

Given Malifaux's theme and visual style, I was thinking that the buildings of New Orlean's French Quarter would be a good way to make a themed board. The buildings frequently have elaborate balconies like this one:



So, I was thinking about removing the back railing from one of the walkways shown above and slapping the remaining walkway against an otherwise unadorned building to make something more visually interesting.

I think both of those pieces would work well for Malifaux. Spiraling is correct, that positioning is very important, but because of the way the game is designed, it is designed to be played on "indoor" places. It does make LoS slightly more important.

I would love to play in a city block game, and have several buildings with indoors, so that you could fight from building to building.

I was thinking about getting the heroic 28mm warehouse for the inside and tacking the balcony on the front. This would allow a nice indoor area while looking nice at the same time.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I think both of those pieces would work well for Malifaux. Spiraling is correct, that positioning is very important, but because of the way the game is designed, it is designed to be played on "indoor" places. It does make LoS slightly more important.

I would love to play in a city block game, and have several buildings with indoors, so that you could fight from building to building.

I've been very slowly working on a 2-story Malifaux table, lower story is sewers with catwalks, upper story is street level, with some open space, some interiors on smaller buildings, and a third or so of a big building with a removable interior to function as a warehouse or library(? not sure about the second yet)... the sewers are mostly done, still trying to get the street level proportioned right. Unfortunately, I've gotten distracted by 40k and life, so haven't made any great strides recently

What about streetcars? I think I remember somewhere that these things have been running in Louisana since the 1830s. Do they fit the theme of Malifaux?

Well there are trains in Malifaux, but Idk about streetcars... There is a story involving a stage coach.