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Made in au
Grovelin' Grot Rigger




Do ork bikers always get a 4+ save even in assault and even if they don't move? Also do nob bikers without a weapon upgrade get a +1 attack for having a choppa and slugga?
   
Made in us
Heroic Senior Officer





Western Kentucky

A cover save can never be taken in assault. This means that the smoke cloud save (the special cover save ork bikes get) could not be taken in assault. However, bikes give the rider a +4 armor save, so your bikers will have a +4 in assaults as long as the other guy doesnt have AP4 close combat weapons.

As for the smoke cloud save and movement, as far as I know ork bikes are unique in that we don't need to move in order to get our save. I'll have to check that though.

And for the nob, yep. Nob always have slugga/choppa until you trade up for better weapons. As in the rulebook, you get a bonus attack for it.

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Made in au
Grovelin' Grot Rigger




So does that mean that ork bikers never get an invulnerable save in assault?

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Badass "Sister Sin"






Camas, WA

No invul unless they have cyborg. Cover is not an invul.

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Made in au
Grovelin' Grot Rigger




Can they get cyborg bodies? I thought that maybe bikers couldn't?

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Made in us
Sneaky Kommando





Nob squads can get a painboy that grants Cybork and Feel No Pain. This is true for Nob Bikers as well (Painboy gets his own bike).

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Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Burtucky, Michigan

Just an FYI,any type of rules questions should be put in the YMDC section.

And to add insult to injury I guess

Bikers ALWAYS get a 4+cover save to shooting attacks, weather they moved or not.
Bikers HAVE a 4+ armor save in assault (so obviously better AP ignores this 4+ save)
Cover is NOT an invulnerable save.
Cybork is granted by adding a painboy to the unit or Mad Dok to the army, and paying for the upgrades. So with a painboy in the unit their saves would be as such

4+ armor/4+ cover save/5+ cybork save. Always pick the highest save applicable, if that save fails, you use your 5+FNP save.
   
Made in au
Grovelin' Grot Rigger




How would you represent a painboy?

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