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Philly

So sense you can pre-measure anything at anytime now, would it be acceptable to simply make a deepstrike template (circle 24"-ish wide) that you can use to ensure that your guys never run the risk of misshaping?

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 Cortez667 wrote:
So sense you can pre-measure anything at anytime now, would it be acceptable to simply make a deepstrike template (circle 24"-ish wide) that you can use to ensure that your guys never run the risk of misshaping?


Would make perfect since! Instead of running around with the tape measure that would help alot.

Also, should be "since" not "sense"

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Why would you need 24" you can scatter tops 12" and then you have probably a 5-6" max foot print?

But yes that would be fine

   
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Eldercaveman wrote:
Why would you need 24" you can scatter tops 12" and then you have probably a 5-6" max foot print?

But yes that would be fine


12" radius = 24" template.

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Philly

Glad I got a positive response to that. And yes 'since' not 'sense'. My bad...

Thing is, in competitive play, time is a valuable thing. And if I can save a minute or two, it'll be worth it, me thinks.


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Oh, and I had an epiphany; I'm going to mark the template with expanding rings at 1" intervals.

Put the template down with the model in the middle. Roll scatter and it'll be fast as cheese to just move the model to the 3" ring or whatever.

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not a bad idea. Personally i rarely do that except board edge because im always deepstriking in a dangerous spot otherwise my deepstriking unit is pointless.

Zagstrukk needs to be close to something to assault it, since you cant move after deepstriking

An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.

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Philly

True, but I'm thinking in terms of Terminators... Obviously the same could be done with 12" circles for blood angels or Storm Boyz.


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I know a lot of fellow veterans have grumbled at the idea of pre-measuring, but I like it. It means far more bloody battles.

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Eldercaveman wrote:
Why would you need 24" you can scatter tops 12" and then you have probably a 5-6" max foot print?


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Lovepug13 wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
Why would you need 24" you can scatter tops 12" and then you have probably a 5-6" max foot print?


No wonder Australia is desperate for engineers from around the world to come and migrate....

He's not Australian dude

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 Cortez667 wrote:
Glad I got a positive response to that. And yes 'since' not 'sense'. My bad...

Thing is, in competitive play, time is a valuable thing. And if I can save a minute or two, it'll be worth it, me thinks.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, and I had an epiphany; I'm going to mark the template with expanding rings at 1" intervals.

Put the template down with the model in the middle. Roll scatter and it'll be fast as cheese to just move the model to the 3" ring or whatever.

If you want to make it really awesome, you could also write the chance of them DS'ing below each interval.
So at 2" you put 2%
Etc etc, and at 7" you get 50% and at 12" you get 100%.
   
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I would say acceptable, but not advised. From a design aspect a 24" circle template is horribly unwieldy, you risk knocking stuff moving it about over the table, to make it stable at such size you'll have to make it out of a rigid material as well. It'd have to be sturdy (which leads to heavy) not to mention clear, to be held with one hand. If you hold it with two hands, you have to move it out of the way and put it down, to start moving figures, so you've lose the usefulness of actually measuring with it, alternatively moving it out of the way without taking your eyes off the board.

Going to pick up a template like that just to look briefly, then put away and do a more careful measuring with a tape measurer still takes more time than swiftly swinging your tapemeasurer or meauring stick in a semicricle at 12", so you won't be saving time. Still my main concern would be its size and weight, and that it won't be easy to control with one hand to allow you to actually move your figures while keeping it in place.

Plus, a safe scatter is nearly useless in gameplay in my opinion, if you want to be that safe with your termies you might as well just footslog them to begin with. Deep strike is so much more useful for rapid deployment into needy areas, which has its risks. But that's just my opinion.

Personally I wouldn't want anything like that used near my models either way, it's an accident waiting to happen.
   
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 Krellnus wrote:
Lovepug13 wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
Why would you need 24" you can scatter tops 12" and then you have probably a 5-6" max foot print?


No wonder Australia is desperate for engineers from around the world to come and migrate....

He's not Australian dude


Made me laugh - Damm Commonwealth Star lol

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Lovepug13 wrote:
 Krellnus wrote:
Lovepug13 wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
Why would you need 24" you can scatter tops 12" and then you have probably a 5-6" max foot print?


No wonder Australia is desperate for engineers from around the world to come and migrate....

He's not Australian dude


Made me laugh - Damm Commonwealth Star lol


Yeah the flag may be a New Zealand flag, but you should really have a look at where I'm from

But granted I am really bad at maths.

   
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 Johnno wrote:
I would say acceptable, but not advised. From a design aspect a 24" circle template is horribly unwieldy, you risk knocking stuff moving it about over the table, to make it stable at such size you'll have to make it out of a rigid material as well. It'd have to be sturdy (which leads to heavy) not to mention clear, to be held with one hand. If you hold it with two hands, you have to move it out of the way and put it down, to start moving figures, so you've lose the usefulness of actually measuring with it, alternatively moving it out of the way without taking your eyes off the board.

Going to pick up a template like that just to look briefly, then put away and do a more careful measuring with a tape measurer still takes more time than swiftly swinging your tapemeasurer or meauring stick in a semicricle at 12", so you won't be saving time. Still my main concern would be its size and weight, and that it won't be easy to control with one hand to allow you to actually move your figures while keeping it in place.

Plus, a safe scatter is nearly useless in gameplay in my opinion, if you want to be that safe with your termies you might as well just footslog them to begin with. Deep strike is so much more useful for rapid deployment into needy areas, which has its risks. But that's just my opinion.

Personally I wouldn't want anything like that used near my models either way, it's an accident waiting to happen.


I hear what your saying, and its probably valid. But your making a lot of assumptions about its construction in the first paragraph, none of them valid. I made a quick demo with some cereal box card board. Looks a little kiddish, but it works. Theres actually a lot more chance of model damage with a rigidly extended tape measurer than with this thing.
   
 
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