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Whats your vote for the best HQ at dealing out damage via phychic powers and why?

what tactics do you use when using them?

Eldad allied to Tau.

Re-roll to hit on 2 of my units, very little chance of miscast, another random power of the chart, and great anti-psyker

iv gotta say the sorcerer from the chaos codex that can cast 3 witchfire powers a turn is deffidently pretty good on damage output but iv only ever seen him played never played with him.

mouskowitz wrote:
iv gotta say the sorcerer from the chaos codex that can cast 3 witchfire powers a turn is deffidently pretty good on damage output but iv only ever seen him played never played with him.

Ahriman makes you giggle with joy when you read him, than you realize that in order to get 3 different witchfires its all random. Than if you are lucky enough they will most likely be 12" range. Yeah I mad. So?

That why I throw my ahriman with obliteraters, infiltrate and go biomancy, 3 rolls on that chart and the only power that isnt perfect for him is warpspeed, luckily the primaris is a witchfire too heh

6th Ed pretty much killed Psykers. They are almost useless now since literally every model on the table has what amounts to a 6+ (or better) inv save against psychic attacks. (See Deny the Witch).

As well, most psychic powers were massively powered down. Most have a very short range now, and since they are randomly generated you don't always have control over what you get.

The only real advantage to psykers now are Force Weapons, which is almost never of any use since the targets you are going to wan to use them on will have a massive lead on the psyker in terms of WS.

The best Abuse I have seen is Ezekiel (Mind Worm gives him a real shot, and "Quickening" can help if you get lucky) snd Mephiston. Both are pretty OP and actually bring something to the table other than just being there themselves (See, Book of Salvation).

Eldrad is still a decent option for Eldar, but you'd probably be better off just playing with Autarchs for the time being until GW either gives Farseers a reason to exist, or writes up a new Codex: Eldar.

En Excelsis wrote:
6th Ed pretty much killed Psykers. They are almost useless now since literally every model on the table has what amounts to a 6+ (or better) inv save against psychic attacks. (See Deny the Witch).

As well, most psychic powers were massively powered down. Most have a very short range now, and since they are randomly generated you don't always have control over what you get.

The only real advantage to psykers now are Force Weapons, which is almost never of any use since the targets you are going to wan to use them on will have a massive lead on the psyker in terms of WS.

The best Abuse I have seen is Ezekiel (Mind Worm gives him a real shot, and "Quickening" can help if you get lucky) snd Mephiston. Both are pretty OP and actually bring something to the table other than just being there themselves (See, Book of Salvation).

Eldrad is still a decent option for Eldar, but you'd probably be better off just playing with Autarchs for the time being until GW either gives Farseers a reason to exist, or writes up a new Codex: Eldar.

I don't know about that man. The reduction in power of psychic hoods from a ~41% nullification, to ~33% was a decent boost. Offensive psychic powers were never really amazing, look at Zoanthropes for example. Psy test, deny the witch, roll to hit, roll to wound, armor/cover save. It's just too many rolls.

6th edition psykers are about blessings and maledictions. Enfeeble, almost the entire divination school, invisibility, hallucinate, psychic scream...etc are all top notch powers.

My experience with 6th edition has had a psyker in pretty much every single army that can take one.

En Excelsis wrote:
6th Ed pretty much killed Psykers. They are almost useless now since literally every model on the table has what amounts to a 6+ (or better) inv save against psychic attacks. (See Deny the Witch).

As well, most psychic powers were massively powered down. Most have a very short range now, and since they are randomly generated you don't always have control over what you get.

The only real advantage to psykers now are Force Weapons, which is almost never of any use since the targets you are going to wan to use them on will have a massive lead on the psyker in terms of WS.

The best Abuse I have seen is Ezekiel (Mind Worm gives him a real shot, and "Quickening" can help if you get lucky) snd Mephiston. Both are pretty OP and actually bring something to the table other than just being there themselves (See, Book of Salvation).

Eldrad is still a decent option for Eldar, but you'd probably be better off just playing with Autarchs for the time being until GW either gives Farseers a reason to exist, or writes up a new Codex: Eldar.

You must be new around here...

Eldar psykers are basically the only thing keeping them from being utter at the moment. Tyranid psychic choirs are brutal to face off against, and have actually made the army far more competitive.

I think what you meant to say was that psychic shooting attacks are dead, because that would be pretty close to correct. Maledictions and Blessings are the way to go, they're so good that it's not even funny.

There is no accounting for chance... and certainly experiences do vary.

I think the biggest things that killed Pskers for me are Deny the Witch, and Random Power Generation.

You're spot on about the rest. Some powers are very nice... some are worthless. That would all be well and good for a savvy player who knows which ones to take and which ones not to, except you can't because they are all randomly generated.

The Swarmlord. End of discussion.

You might counter that it isn't his psychic powers providing the offense, but he doesn't get to T9, A7, and Eternal Warrior without them.

En Excelsis wrote:
6th Ed pretty much killed Psykers. They are almost useless now since literally every model on the table has what amounts to a 6+ (or better) inv save against psychic attacks. (See Deny the Witch).

Yeah, that's totally wrong. The new psychic powers aren't all "lol i hav anuva gun" some are incredibly strong. A buffed hive tyrant or demon prince can smash through most things, and never die. Psychers are incredibly strong in 6th.

I find that the strongest offensive psykers are really the ones that buff or depuff the best. Via Divination, Telepathy and/or Biomancy.

If you have access to divination, it's hard to come across a bad power, and even if you do roll the one that gives you 3 dice for reserves, outflanks, objectives. It's good in certain situations , if your army can take advantage of it. (I.E. huge outflanking force that you can reliably bring on turn 2 and on exactly the side of the board you want.)

Telepathy is probably the best at debuffing with things such as puppet master (made someone shoot their own Forgefiend with a TL meltagun on turn one.) Make guys, even fearless ones, morale checks at random. Or even the dreaded invisibility protecting your troops or hallucinations, causing your opponents' favorite unit to act dumb for a turn.

And Biomancy turn your psyker into a one man killing machines, and/or buffing those around him making them tough as nails and a little more mobile. And if you get luck, some nice debuffs as well.

Offensive psykers have taken on a new name, turn somewhat mean units, into deadly killing machines.

Though I know FW is often discounted on the boards here I still like Severin Loth as a beatstick in concept, though have not had the chance to field him yet

Servin Loth is mad, compare him to Tiggy and laugh at how many powers Loth gets from the BRB, 6, yes thats a complete table if you want.....

Plus he isnt 40k approved yet :(