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Not sure if this should be in the list builder forum, so if it should please let me know and I'll see if I can get it moved or re-post it.

I'm still waiting for the missing sprue from my DV set to come and have been contemplating building on the DV Chaos content (without converting any of the DA as I may be getting more marines to build these up). I would like to do this on the "cheap" but still be fun playable - giving a DA or Eldar army "some" competition. First off I won't be forking out for any vehicles - so no rhino etc (but I may scratch build one from plasticard/foam board or an M113 hobby model), BUT I can get an older style SM dread that I can convert pretty easily. Without access to a Chaos Codex at the moment - don't want to buy one unless my plan is viable - I'm asking for any Chaos player for a bit of assistance on building a legal army.

Ultimately, I would like to build on the DV models and get a 1000-1250 pt army by choosing from the following (not choosing ALL of them hopefully):

Dreadnaught - what primary (right arm) weapon?
plague marines 7-14 ( i think the box set is 7??)
Abaddon
CSM box set - 10 models?
5 Termies
1-3 Obliterators
What psychic to take? Sorcerer?
Daemon prince

From what i've been able to briefly find - is there a character or psychic that can turn the DV cultists into zombies??


Thanks in advance for any help!

The person who turns cultists into zombies is typhus.

Dreadnoughts / hellbrutes are awful


Daemon princes are fun ,but not really competitive

Sorcerers are great,
plague marines are great, you will need a lord to run them as troops

Dont get abaddon jsut yet, hes for larger games
Regular csm are not necessaries if you take the route of plague marines

Oblits are great choice, if you are good at converting you can make them from regular termies (dv box ser for instance)

Id reccomend, 1-2 boxses of palgue marines
Sorcerer
lord
the oblits you wanted
and the termies
those should be a solid fondation

SOrry for spelling/grammer mistakes i was in a massive rush

Thanks for the help Ozomoto. I think I'm going to go as such:

All Chaos from DV set, plus:

-5 more cultists - now 25 in total? ( and then have 10 which I think is the max - run as zombies)
-scratch build a Typhus from an old Terminator
-16 plague marines (I read they come 8 to a box?? if not I have a couple of old basic SM's I can convert to plagues + what ever comes in 2 boxes)
-1 scorcerer
-1 oblit
-1 dreadnaught
-5 terminators
(still getting abaddon even just to paint)

Can anyone with a codex tell me what roughly it would equal point wise total (less specific gear of course)?

Ehldar wrote:
Thanks for the help Ozomoto. I think I'm going to go as such:

All Chaos from DV set, plus:

-5 more cultists - now 25 in total? ( and then have 10 which I think is the max - run as zombies)
-scratch build a Typhus from an old Terminator
-16 plague marines (I read they come 8 to a box?? if not I have a couple of old basic SM's I can convert to plagues + what ever comes in 2 boxes)
-1 scorcerer
-1 oblit
-1 dreadnaught
-5 terminators
(still getting abaddon even just to paint)

Can anyone with a codex tell me what roughly it would equal point wise total (less specific gear of course)?

If you go here http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=1000018&pIndex=1&aId=3000006&multiPageMode=true&start=2

you can find the faq for chaos that lets you run up to 35 zombies in a squad. (which is incredibly hard to kill)


It all depends on how you gear up termies, sorc, cultists etc, but for average upgrades that comes to 1200-1300. (thats without the abaddon)

If you are dead set on abaddon, you want to go with chosen, as he makes them a troop option, (chosen have the abilty to take up to 4/ special weps per sqaud + a heavy, making them very versatile as you can gear them up for cc or shooting)
(you should have some as you got the dv box?, great models to)

Typhus also makes plague marines troops as well

If you take a walk around ebay/ other similar sites, you could probably get cultists and chosen fairly cheap. (comparatively to other models that is).


Also you mentioned not having vehicles (which is completely fine btw), consider converting some guys to have autocannons as a unit of 5 with 4 autocannons runs at 115 points, which is pretty damn good for 8 str 7 bs 4 shots 48" range

If you go here http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=1000018&pIndex=1&aId=3000006&multiPageMode=true&start=2

you can find the faq for chaos that lets you run up to 35 zombies in a squad. (which is incredibly hard to kill)

It all depends on how you gear up termies, sorc, cultists etc, but for average upgrades that comes to 1200-1300. (thats without the abaddon)

If you are dead set on abaddon, you want to go with chosen, as he makes them a troop option, (chosen have the abilty to take up to 4/ special weps per sqaud + a heavy, making them very versatile as you can gear them up for cc or shooting)
(you should have some as you got the dv box?, great models to)

Typhus also makes plague marines troops as well

If you take a walk around ebay/ other similar sites, you could probably get cultists and chosen fairly cheap. (comparatively to other models that is).


Also you mentioned not having vehicles (which is completely fine btw), consider converting some guys to have autocannons as a unit of 5 with 4 autocannons runs at 115 points, which is pretty damn good for 8 str 7 bs 4 shots 48" range

DV comes with:

1 Chaos Lord
6 Chosen
20 Cultists
1 Hellbrute

Which works out to about 550 points if my googling is correct. So that would mean what I posted as potential buys + DV models + abaddon = almost 2000 points? If it is...woot! as I'm going to pad the DA's out of DV too and make them close to 2000 also.......all this and I haven't played a game yet O.o (missing sprue hasn't arrived yet :( )