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This might be a common list im not sure. its something ive come up with and seems pretty strait forward melee charging army with some fire power from the widow makers and some flanking from the manhunter. the main goal of this list is to be sturdy, hard hitting, and just overall beastmoding across the board ^^

The Butcher of Khardov
Beast-09
Kodiak
War dog
Great Bears of Gallowswood
Iron Fang Pikemen (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Iron Fang Pikemen Officer & Standard
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts)
Manhunter

IFP front line/tarpit running then shield walling. Beast and Kodiak charging across behind them (Beast charging faster if shot at and kodiak surviving with "vent steam") butcher in the back with Great Bears for the follow up clean up/counter charge, and defense against opponent flanking. Manhunter offering flanking options and widowmakers offering cover fire for picking off infantry softening them up for my IFP in the front.

this is the idea. do you see flaws? will i just get picked apart by gun lines? if i replaced the kodiak with a juggernaut and dropped the dog the extra 2 points could buy me something like marksman or another manhunter. lastly i could use those 2 points + taking out the manhunter giving me 4 points for Drakhun? i would prefer to keep the great bears because i love them esp. since they match so well with my IFP

suggestions/ ideas/ critiques. thanks


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list #2 Mobile Gun Platform. take a look at this second completely different approach, i love to hear some suggestions.

Kommander Harkevich, the Iron Wolf
Black Ivan
Destroyer
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard
3 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich
Manhunter
Widowmaker Marksman

my main concern is...will i be struggling against taking down some heavy Jacks? the list on paper looks extremely mobile with some solid shooting potential and some decent melee to back it up. with flanking from the man hunter...also i could remove the 3 rocketeers for something else or also removing the marksman for 5 points to spend on something else entirely (some melee support? greatbears/IFP? maybe greylord ternions + dog/ WGRC for more shooting? Drakhun/ another manhunter? )I HAVE SO MANY IDEAS I cant decide!?!?!!?. or maybe the list is solid as is..let me know, thanks.

Lists look good. Personally I'm not a fan of the destroyer. Too many points for RAT 4 when there are better options out there.

Beast is awesome, but for just about the same points (with the destroyer) you can get Behemoth and a Beserker and have a great amount of axe to face and shooting.

yeah ive been thinking the same thing about destroyer, the idea was mainly to add the extra shooting to synergize but for 9 pts your not getting back enough return. if only the destroyer was 7-8 pts. D:

Best thing to do with a Destroyer is go get the Black Ivan upgrade kit for like $15 and make an awesome jack......

Harkevich loves him a Spriggan instead of the Destroyer, You're really getting the deathstar for the sprays, if you need to trim points, then rockets are a good. If you're looking to maximize AOE potential, then I might pick up mortors. Heavy Jacks can still be taken out by the WGIDS with CMA or CRA, so you should be ok, unless it's jack heavy.