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Belial (Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter, Sword of Silence) – 190 {Attached to the 10 man Deathwing Unit}

Deathwing Command Squad (5 Deathwing Terminators, Standard of Fortitude, 1 Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 1 Cyclone Missile Launcher) – 335 {Deployed using Deathwing Asssault}

10 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 9 Deathwing Terminators, 2 Plasma Cannons) – 475 {Deployed using Deathwing Asssault}

5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Cyclone Missile Launcher) – 250

5 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 4 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Cyclone Missile Launcher) – 250

Deathwing Dreadnought (Venerable, Multi-Melta, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod) – 170

Deathwing Dreadnought (Venerable, Multi-Melta, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod) – 170

Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Plasma Cannon) – 170

Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Plasma Cannon) – 170

Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Plasma Cannon) – 170

Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Plasma Cannon) – 170

Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Plasma Cannon) – 170

- I also have 5 Sergeants with Plasma Pistol and Chain Sword (all marines besides 5 are from Dark Vengence)

= 2690

So the 1500 Points of Deathwing is solid - The two Dreads are there for Anti-Armor and help support the Terminators (and with Deathwing Dreads they fit the fluff of a Pure Deathwing List perfectly, I use both of them at 1850) - The Tacticals are from Dark Vengence which is why the squad loadout is copy and paste, I want to keep them into the list since I have them if possible.

Anyone have any thoughts on what to add and how to make this list competitive?

Thanks Guys

Knights, definately want access to one squad (mainly to scare your opponent). Also, if you can find a land raider, that would be pretty nice for DW especially since you don't have access to lascannons.

Ravenwing Squads.... buy the DV ones, you can get them cheap. Use bits (PP and WFB marauder axes) to make them into BK if needed.

A whirlwind or two might be nice seeing as the are cheap as hell points wise and will help you take on horde armies and you can take away their prized cover saves.

As you seem to be steering away from Ravenwing, id second the suggestion for some DW Knights. Get 10, and pop them in a LRC

Or add some Ravenwing bikes if you dont mind moving toward that. Bikes mean your DW wont scatter on DWA.

You might want to consider a devastator box for different heavy weapon option for the tacs.

So I was thinking a little bit today.

Dark Angel’s 3000 Point Loadout

Belial (Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter & Sword of Silence) – 190 {Attached to the 10 Man Deathwing Unit Being Deployed Using Deathwing Assault with Plasma Cannons}

Deathwing Command Squad (5 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, Standard of Fortitude, 1 Chain Fist, Cyclone Missile Launcher) – 340 {Deployed Using Deathwing Assault}

10 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 9 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 2 Plasma Cannon) – 480 {Deployed using Deathwing Assault}

10 Deathwing Terminators (1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant with Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 9 Deathwing Terminators, 1 Chain Fist, 2 Cyclone Missile Launcher) – 500 {Deployed using Deathwing Assault}

Deathwing Dreadnought (Venerable, Multi-Melta, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod) – 170
Deathwing Dreadnought (Venerable, Multi-Melta, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod) – 170
Deathwing Dreadnought (Venerable, Multi-Melta, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod) – 170

Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Missile Launcher) – 170
Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Missile Launcher) – 170
Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Missile Launcher) – 170
Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Missile Launcher) – 170
Tactical Squad (Sergeant with Bolter, 9 Space Marines, 1 Plasma Gun, 1 Missile Launcher) – 170

Whirlwind – 65
Whirlwind – 65

= 3000

The whirlwinds are there because they are extremely inexpensive and to ignore cover ordnance hordes and I needed 130 points of filler (thx for the suggestion, they really are dirt cheap). All of the Deathwing Units Terminators and Dreadnoughts all deploy with Deathwing Assault or Drop Pods into the enemy’s backfield - between the mix of units/ loadouts they should be able to deal with any threats, and give a large foothold in the enemy’s backfield (and hopefully taking out a large portion of heavy support in the process).

The strategy would be basic – Deathwing Alpha Strikes and holds the backfield – Tacticals advance up supported by the Whirlwinds.

I am outfitting this list for apocalypse with a partner - 2v2 with 3000 points per player – and trying to get the most out of the current Dark Angel Units I own (The Deathwing Terminators, 2/3 of the Deathwing Dreadnoughts, the 5 Tactical Squads) – if anyone has any suggestions on how to make this list viable I would like to hear it – I entertained the Idea of putting all of the tacticals in rhinos or combat squads with 5 and a plasma in a razorback with a twin-linked lascannon and a 5 man with a missile launcher backfield, and add more mobility to the list – I could add in rhinos to each tactical squad by dropping 1 dread and some wargear).

My Partner’s list is going to be codex marines (based on ultramarines 3rd company) – the core being 6 units of tactical marines with flamer & missile launcher – that can be deployed in rhinos (which is partially why I am thinking about going rhinos because we could both transport spearhead – even though rhinos are paper thin – Deathwing would hopefully provide for a good distraction and take some fire away from the transports)

Although we could both just walk up the field with 110+ marines in power armor.

Anyone have any thoughts on the list composition and strategy mechanics?