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Hi all.

I used to play 1st edition a lot, hadn't played any wargames in a long time but am back on the hype.

My buddies are only just in to Warmachine and are starting off with some 25pt and some 35pt games. This is the core of my army :

Harbinger
Devout
Avatar Of Menoth
Vilmon
Choir

Which is just 16 points. Now with my 25 points I've recently been taking :

Crusader
Hierophant
Wracks

I certainly need a large based Jack to help screen the delivery which is why I feel Crusader is a good choice, but the Hierophant and Wracks have been a little redundant. Does anyone have recommendation for the 3 points in the 25 point game?

Also, for 35 points, I use that initial 16 points then just haven't a clue. I do like the delivery system style so would want a large based 'jack still but don't know where to put the points.

This is the rest of what I have on top of the above :
Devout
Repenter
Vanquisher
Castigator
5 Cinerator
Full Zealot + UA
Full Flameguard + UA
Allegiant
2 Paladin Of The Order Wall
Vassal

Alexia Ciannor & The Risen
Aiyana & Holt
Anastasia Di Bray
Dirty Meg
Doc Killingstworth
pEiryss
Gorman Di Wulfe
Kell Bailoch
Alten Ashley

Let me know some thoughts on bumbing to 35 and the 25 bits. I am not adversed ot purchasing new stuff if I can see the way it works.

A heirophant is practically standard issue with Harbinger, Wracks are standard issue for everyone.

The Heirophant basically cancels your first Martyrdom each turn, and a free focus from the Wrack is always welcome. Even with 10 base.



Harbinger actually likes tons of Jacks and Weapon Master infantry.

At 50 points I run her with up to 6 Crusaders plus the Avatar.

That way she can hang back a little, she's not a melee caster. And unless she's camping all her Focus she's not very durable either.

As I said, I took the Hierophant and Wracks but really haven't seem to need them.

Infact, in the last game I played as I ran the delivery system quite tight, I didn't lose a single model.

I usually find that you deliver her to a medium armour casters face on your turn, break the line, charge her, you're looking at 6 boosted attacks that autohit. Even better if your Avatar has just had 3/4 focus and charged first too, then you can take a high arm caster down.