Going down the line
Grundz wrote:for one, if you're new, you should start small, with
40k it is basically the same game as things scale up, but with
WM the interaction of models with eachother gets complicated pretty quickly
Having a goal to build towards is great, but start small. The above 100%
Grundz wrote:Vassal: I'd try and fit in 2, we'll get to that later
Yup. Buy the second vassal now. It'll happen eventually
Grundz wrote:min choir: you dont have enough choir, these guys are easy to kill, at 50 I'd like to see a max, or 2 min units just for redundency, remember they can help hold scenario objectives and block movement too.
I agree that you should probably max the choir or take a second one, I take a minimum because I like to live dangerously. If you take a max, you save a point, but if you take two min units, you can have one cover the avatar (so he gets a useful song if you decide to do no spells, if you decide he needs the extra attention) or jacks that aren't near the others. The choice is yours.
On to the battlegroup
Grundz wrote:
revenger
crusader
reckoner
avatar
kind of a mixed bag, why the revenger /and a devout? I'd say if you like these guys why not combine them and grab the blessing of vengence?
I agree with the mixed bag statement, but first, I'm going to address the blessing of vengeance comment. BoV may have defensive strike, but he sure doesn't have shield guard. The reason the
OP should
IMO play a devout is to eat an eiryss shot or something like that, and to spell barrier her. With an arc node, it's your call. I don't run one, though I usually use the guardian if I have a node with her (though I wouldn't recommend an guardian for a newer player, not as toolboxy/used in as many lists
IMO).
On to the actual battlegroup.
Reckoner: take it. Amazing jack, I almost always have a reckoner in my lists.
Crusader: Not a fan unless I desperately need a heavy (which is why he's in my harby list now. I had to take the reckoner down to a crusader to get Rhoven in, and I only have the avatar as my other heavy). He's good, especially as a cheap beatstick, and the bonus to charge distance helps, but I generally have a preference towards other jacks.
Revenger: Not a fan with Harby, though that may be because I generally only run arc nodes with pSevy (Blessing, sometimes) and Kreoss3 (guardian)
Now onto the big guy that's too cool to be part of the battlegroup. I love having the avatar with harby as it helps with the scenario game and so she can be greedier with her focus.
Grundz wrote:Changes: (very optional)
I'd drop the
TFG/
UA , grab the errant shnez if you guys play scenario's already since you have the book they aren't necessary. replace them with
-knights exemplar, you can martryrdom to keep the last 2 or so alive so they hit like trucks
-rhupert, to get the errants tough
Vassels: I'd get a 2nd one.
Jacks: because you will have a 2nd vassel, you want to get a vanquisher or redeemer to put out some fire support, on turns you dont need enliven you can walk the vassel over to the ranged jack to get an extra shot out, put one focus on the vanquisher (or two if you have to boost to hit) fire once boosted, then vassel a 2nd shot, you can put some serious hurt down without having to engage.