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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/26 19:39:55
Subject: Newbie- Khador- 25 & 35 Butcher list
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
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25 points
The Butcher of Khardov
War dog
Kodiak
Beast 09
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Rocketeer x3
Officer and Standard Bearer
Kovnik Joe
35 points
The Butcher of Khardov
War dog
Kodiak
Beast 09
Juggernaut
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Rocketeer x3
Officer and Standard Bearer
Kovnik Joe
Only problem I initially see is that I have an extra point available for 35 points, and in 25 points I cant include Kovnik Joe. Please let me know what you think of my lists, what could go better, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 13:37:43
Subject: Re:Newbie- Khador- 25 & 35 Butcher list
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Drakhun
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Nothing "wrong" with the lists you put together. I would offer that pButcher doesn't run multiple jacks very well, He only has 6 focus and with IF up he is effectively Focus 5 unless you give him the wish elf.
or run bizerker spam.
pButcher does best when he has a lot bodies to hit the enemy when he feats. Here are two lists that hit hard and still have Beast 09 in the mix.
25pt
The Butcher of Khardov (*6pts)
* Beast-09 (11pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (4pts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 3 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers (3pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)
Widowmaker Marksman (2pts)
35pts
The Butcher of Khardov (*6pts)
* Beast-09 (11pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Kayazy Assassins (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Kayazy Assassin Underboss (2pts)
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt (4pts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 3 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers (3pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)
Saxon Orrik (2pts) Automatically Appended Next Post: Here is something else for thought. Crazy fast list, Can crack high armor, and about half of the list is Advance deploy.
The Butcher of Khardov (*6pts)
* Berserker (6pts)
* Berserker (6pts)
Doom Reavers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (6pts)
Great Bears of Gallowswood (5pts)
Kayazy Assassins (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Kayazy Assassin Underboss (2pts)
Kayazy Eliminators (Leader and Grunt) (3pts)
Kayazy Eliminators (Leader and Grunt) (3pts)
Manhunter (2pts)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/27 13:42:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 22:14:19
Subject: Re:Newbie- Khador- 25 & 35 Butcher list
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
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I like those lists, I slightly modified mine to fix the points issue I was having. Let me know what you think. I changed mine to keep the cost down(only changed one unit), but in time I could look at picking up the assassins and others. (My army lists are pretty much my collection at the moment) I tried to pick Jacks that would do well with Butchers abilities and feat, and the shocktroopers should be nice with the Butcher himself as a "honor guard"
25 points
The Butcher of Khardov
War dog
Kodiak
Beast 09
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Rocketeer x1
Officer and Standard Bearer
Kovnik Joe
35 points
The Butcher of Khardov
Kodiak
Beast 09
Man-O-War Shocktroopers
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Rocketeer x3
Officer and Standard Bearer
Kovnik Joe
Im going to save the lists provided, and really look at them tonight. Thanks for the input
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/27 22:39:04
Subject: Newbie- Khador- 25 & 35 Butcher list
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Drakhun
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They look like solid lists. The MOW are good for holding flags and screening pButcher. Don't expect to get too much work out of them beyond that unless you pick up the new Iron Fang solo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 16:53:11
Subject: Re:Newbie- Khador- 25 & 35 Butcher list
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
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Not worth the points to put him in unless I was working with more units I think. I saved your first and last lists as alternates, but I just dont have the merc units for the middle list. I want to try out the last list, seems very fast and in your face before you can react. I really appreciate the help, I just started this game, and am making my first lists.
Anyone else have good butcher lists feel free to add them in, I appreciate all feedback.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/28 17:47:26
Subject: Newbie- Khador- 25 & 35 Butcher list
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Dakka Veteran
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Here is a list that I modified slightly from another list. I will be looking forward to trying this out, should be effective:
Butcher - +6
-Jugg - 7
-War dog - 1
Max AKs - 8
Harlan Versh - 2
Greatbears - 5
Lady Aiyanna and master holt - 4
Manhunter - 2
Mnahunter - 2
You can change this list around a little bit to compensate for things like lots of forests. take out one of the manhunters and change the jugg into a kodiak and add a flamethrower to the AK squad.
Dont balk at the AKs!!! They look meh but their toolbox has proved valuable more times than I can count. Plus they can alpha strike like a motherf***er with butcher's Fury buff, feat, and ayiana's damage buff. I calculated their potential before - on the charge with those buffs they are capable of 16 dmg on an ARM 20 target with average rolls. The whole gist of it is that they make 3 attacks on the charge which all get bonus dmg from butcher's feat, +3 on two of those attacks from Fury, and +2 on all of those attacks from aiyana. Plus, immune to fire, corrosion, ignore clouds, gases, etc etc. They can sit at a comfy 15/18 early game to absorb hits, then do a 180 into a unit of killing machines. The flamethrowers add killing power against stealth, cover, and small swarms of infantry.
Keep in mind alestrius, Butcher is more lethal in melee than any jack. He hits just as hard as Beast, has reach and magical, he has the best base MAT in the game, and can attack up to 7 times. So long as you can prevent the enemy from counter attacking him really hard (he is a tough cookie to assassinate) it is generally more valuable to charge those big targets with him than your jack.
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71 pts khador - 6 war casters
41 pts merc highborn - 3 warcasters |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 06:54:39
Subject: Re:Newbie- Khador- 25 & 35 Butcher list
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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i say the butcher runs jacks very well, especially jacks like the kodiak and berserker, but everyone has their own play style
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